It's Quiet thread 14 - 'do one' edition

[tonea2003]

tune

 

[BillyShears]

I'd hope not too, but you can be blinded by more exciting things.

We’re working on two deals outside Messi. The general message is that the transfer plans this summer remain unchanged. Messi will be a bonus on top not someone who changes what we do elsewhere.

Seems to be an obvious determination to have a good window.

 

[swinton blue]

Imo the only way barca win this contract dispute is if there is an actual date set in the contract for example cut off for the release cause is the 10th of June
Now with la liga and champs league final finishing on different dates every year, it would be hard to insert a specific date in the contract to give messi enough time at the end of the season to sit down take stock and make his decision.
Thats why I'm wondering if the wording in the contract doesn't have a specific date but gives a time scale maybe 10 days after the champions league to activate the clause.

 

[Kokonut1307]

Some people are working themselves into a frenzy about this. Advocating £100m plus players worth £50m+ with eye-watering wages on top for a 33 year old ?

I know it's Messi but really ?

Leo is still the best player in football. I don’t see how that has changed, despite the quality of his team declining. I don’t understand how fans can be questioning a potential deal for 100m + players. Look at the transfer market and you’ll see absolute mediocre players go for high fees (Maguire), but we should hesitate on the best player?

 

[Keeper!]

We’re working on two deals outside Messi. The general message is that the transfer plans this summer remain unchanged. Messi will be a bonus on top not someone who changes what we do elsewhere.

Seems to be an obvious determination to have a good window.

Please tell me one is a LB.

 

[Danamy]

We’re working on two deals outside Messi. The general message is that the transfer plans this summer remain unchanged. Messi will be a bonus on top not someone who changes what we do elsewhere.

Seems to be an obvious determination to have a good window.

Said it at the time, our biggest result both on and off the field last season was winning that CAS hearing, I was happy to sacrifice any trophy to win that hearing alone due to the reins it would've put on the club and held us back had we lost.

Imagine the opportunity arising of buying the best player in the world and we'd lost that hearing, it would be like going to a sex party and being the only one there without a condom?

 

[waspish]

Please tell me one is a LB.

Think we won’t bothering with a new lb Cancelo acke and Mendy be enough. If we get kk think we play 3 at the back also.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

Even if you looked at it entirely from the point of view of your club, I think you still conclude that it's better to take £100m now than retain a demotivated player for 6 more months.

If a City player had given his entire career for my club, I would at the very end feel dishonoured if I did not respect the player. It's easy to say that from our position I know.

It’s Bartomeu though. Reason, honour, and respect don’t exist.

 

[Keeper!]

Leo is still the best player in football. I don’t see how that has changed, despite the quality of his team declining. I don’t understand how fans can be questioning a potential deal for 100m + players. Look at the transfer market and you’ll see absolute mediocre players go for high fees (Maguire), but we should hesitate on the best player?

Agree about the mediocre players but that was before the covid issue.

Messi is still the best but he's not superhuman, he is 33.

Realistically how long could he remain the best, in the premier league? 2 seasons tops?

If so, 100m plus players is far too great a sum, especially with wages on top and with 12 months remaining on his contract (not forgetting the can go free at the end of the season clause)

 

[Marvin]

We’re working on two deals outside Messi. The general message is that the transfer plans this summer remain unchanged. Messi will be a bonus on top not someone who changes what we do elsewhere.

Seems to be an obvious determination to have a good window.

Very glad to hear that. Messi is indeed the cherry. We could have won the Champions League had we not had a major problem in our defence, and already it looks stronger.

 

[higgi1p]

Agree about the mediocre players but that was before the covid issue.

Messi is still the best but he's not superhuman, he is 33.

Realistically how long could he remain the best, in the premier league? 2 seasons tops?

If so, 100m plus players is far too great a sum, especially with wages on top.

He will attract new sponsors which in itself will more than pay off fee

 

[jay laruja]

We’re working on two deals outside Messi. The general message is that the transfer plans this summer remain unchanged. Messi will be a bonus on top not someone who changes what we do elsewhere.

Seems to be an obvious determination to have a good window.

Ok. I'll take a guess. Koulibaly is the obvious one. And the other is probably Ait Nouri.

Torres
Ake
Ait Nouri
Koulibaly
Messi

Good window indeed.

 

[Keeper!]

He will attract new sponsors which in itself will more than pay off fee

He will but 100m plus transfer and wages of at least 500k week, that's a lot of sponsors and not a good time to be looking for new ones.
Added to that, he's a Barca icon, will a 33 yr Old Messi in sky blue attract as much sponsor $?

 

[Marvin]

Leo is still the best player in football. I don’t see how that has changed, despite the quality of his team declining. I don’t understand how fans can be questioning a potential deal for 100m + players. Look at the transfer market and you’ll see absolute mediocre players go for high fees (Maguire), but we should hesitate on the best player?

I can countenance a valuation of £100m but no more - see Ronaldo's move to Juventus. I do not think he is the best player in football now. Neymar, Mbappe, KDB, Salah, Davies are all players who would have a significantly higher transfer value.

 

[Blue Coop]

Please tell me one is a LB.

I don’t think we’ll buy one. Cancelo and Mendy will take that spot. Cancelo also cover for RB and Ake cover for LB if needed. I know there’s better LB options out there, but given the existing squad I think it’s a position that you need to sell before you buy (I.e Mendy).

 

[richards30]

We’re working on two deals outside Messi. The general message is that the transfer plans this summer remain unchanged. Messi will be a bonus on top not someone who changes what we do elsewhere.

Seems to be an obvious determination to have a good window.

koulibaly and aouar?

 

[Bailey]

It’s Bartomeu though. Reason, honour, and respect don’t exist.

Is it not time someone challenged these ridiculous contract buyout clauses under employment law.
Surely it is restrictive practice if not slavery (albeit well paid slaves)

Either they have to go or FFP as no club could comply also taking wages into consideration

 

[Marvin]

It’s Bartomeu though. Reason, honour, and respect don’t exist.

Remains to be seen if his stance remains the same.

 

[Roy Munson]

koulibaly and aouar?

Out of interest mate, have you ever needed to replace the '?' key on your keyboard?

 

[alexmcity]

I can countenance a valuation of £100m but no more - see Ronaldo's move to Juventus. I do not think he is the best player in football now. Neymar, Mbappe, KDB, Salah, Davies are all players who would have a significantly higher transfer value.

There's a case to be made that Messi is still the best player in the attacking phase of the game. But there is more to football than just attacking. Besides, if City organise everything around KDB and tell him to concentrate entirely on our attacking play and not bother to defend/press, then KDB's numbers would be comparable to Messi's or even better.

Messi is worth a high fee not just because of his current ability but also because of his marketing value.