It's Quiet thread 14 - 'do one' edition

[Elbow beards]

So are we getting isco or not?

 

[oakiecokie]

If Carlsberg did cock ups ...

 

[Chris in London]

Have to take into consideration that Barca are financially deep in it, so can understand them wanting to try and get as much as they can.

They know he is going so are using everything they can to make the best of a bad thing

This cannot be right, because FFP was introduced to make sure that clubs are run on a sustainable financial basis

 

[mosssideblue]

This cannot be right, because FFP was introduced to make sure that clubs are run on a sustainable financial basis

Like the scum:)

 

[BringBackSwales]

So are we getting isco or not?

Yes, when he is 33

 

[M12Blue]

The board has instructed the board ?
Sounds like an fcbarca post

Yep or leaving it to the junior board members to sort ;) what a fucking shit show for Barça. They will lose all credibility

 

[Robinho's Subbuteo]

You can Judge the difference this way. On Thursday IIRC Tolmie said something like “I can’t believe Im going to write this but I think we’ve got him.”

That was well before the various tweets came out of Spain and Argentina confirming that (a) Messi wants away, and (b) we were in pole position to buy him.

Now no journalist has a crystal ball. It is possible that Juve will come in with an 11th hour offer that not even Messi could refuse. It’s possible he will change his mind. It’s possible that the legal position is exactly as La Liga have stated. But thus far Tolmie has called it absolutely spot on. He has got one reliable source somewhere. Bluemoon has been way ahead of every single social media and news organisation on the planet on this, and it’s essentially down to him.

As for Sam Lee, what’s he said exactly?

Excellent post Chris. I doubt Juventus would give Messi a slice of the club though ;-)

 

[waspish]

I had a small road trip yesterday and decided to sign up for the 93:20 podcast so I would have some listening material. The first of the four Messi ones included Sam as a guest and I have to say after listening to that my opinion of him has gone down considerably. Not only does he seem to know fuck all, he may have the worst radio presence of anyone in the media I've ever known. It was cringe-worthy how bad he was.

Yeah that was my impression of that podcast too, other podcasts with sam on have been good and informative but this one was poor by him even throwing in oh might have to throw Kdb in or sterling! How long as he been covering city and he comes up with that does he really think that we would sacrifice those players.

 

[damrider]

this day is good, suddenly

 

[sir baconface]

If needs be, and subject to legal advice, leave it a year and then get him on a free. If Lionel then takes it easy in 20/21 who could blame him, and Barce can enjoy paying his salary. I suspect we will get by better for a year without him than they will with him. Good luck managing that one Ronald. Up yours Tebas. Start practicing a limp Lionel

Trouble is by then he’ll probably have precious little useful time left. He also risks injury in the meantime. At age 33, a year is a fcukin long time.

If City are prepared to pay, it can be no more than the value they put on the next 12 months.

 

[91:23]

 

[sir baconface]

When did Messi sign his contract? If it is more than two years ago then he can leave under the Webster ruling for the cost of his remaining wages under his current contract.

La Liga clubs love these silly buy out clauses but they don't take precedence if there's a conflict like this.

I think Barca are just playing to the media really. They'll get money for him as per the Webster ruling. Claim they got more than they should have and that will be that.

Ah, another amateur lawyer with a “definitive” legal opinion.

Messi should save his legal fees by just coming on here.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

This cannot be right, because FFP was introduced to make sure that clubs are run on a sustainable financial basis

Haha very good

 

[skyblues]

Who decides in the end who is right and wrong? So now suddenly there is no release clause, meaning he could leave for free? This is gonna go on for weeks.

 

[blueparrot]

Who decides in the end who is right and wrong? So now suddenly there is no release clause, meaning he could leave for free? This is gonna go on for weeks.

Bet it doesn’t.

 

[nmc]

This is not 100% definitely true.

When Messi's contract was leaked by der spiegel and mediapart in France, they didn't explicitly state if he gets €70m as a lump sum at the end, or if it's paid out pro-rata, which is more common.

So they've possibly paid him €35m of that 70 already with another €17.5 due around about now for the 19/20 season, and another €17.5 at the end of the deal.

By the way, if those two news organisations felt like leaking the other part of his contract, like the exit clause, we could all be a lot more informed...

Even if Der Spiegel did print it would we take it as gospel? Given their track record!

 

[manimanc]

Who decides in the end who is right and wrong? So now suddenly there is no release clause, meaning he could leave for free? This is gonna go on for weeks.

No it doesn't.
If anything it speeds up the process, no fee we win.

 

[City Raider]

When you cut through the posturing we’re at the inevitable point. All parties know he can now never play for them again. All parties know where he will be playing this season. This should now be sorted quite quickly with everyone just trying to get the best deal possible in their interests.

 

[Steve Coppell’s 33 Days]

Ah, another amateur lawyer with a “definitive” legal opinion.

Messi should save his legal fees by just coming on here.

I came here for legal advice for my 2nd and 3rd divorces tbh. Saved a fortune in legal fees. Gotta do 16hrs a day camming to pay for the alimony but it was worth it.

 

[skyblues]

No it doesn't.
If anything it speeds up the process, no fee we win.

Yes, but you have two parties (Messi vs. La Liga + Barcelona) saying two different things. Messi states "I'm free to leave", the other says "no". Many sources claim he doesn't have a 700m release clause but Barca could continue not listening. It worked out so far.