It's Quiet thread 14 - 'do one' edition

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tolmie's hairdoo said:
People just need to chill.

Messi and his dad are pushing this as far as they possibly can and the City exec are right with them. They are not trying to leg us over in any way.
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I was thinking, if Jorge/messi IF they are behind these recent "change of heart" leaks, if it could all be a ploy to see how bart feels about losing £100mil (or any money for that matter) whilst also paying Messi full whack on wages? Test the waters to see if he can hold his stance.

But then, all the leaks and spin seem to be from barca friendly sources, maybe they're trying to force our hands?

It's a god damn rollercoaster ride and this place is reactionary (to put it nicely) !
 
northstandgiveusasong said:
I understand that but whatever info is getting across to the bookies is rather concerning.
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Betting will be influenced more by what people read in the papers/twitter/sky sports news than Bluemoon, hence the swing against him joining. A red was laughing at me this morning due to the 90% tweet...I suppose it’s who u believe. I prefer to believe Tolmie on here but if he gets it wrong it isn’t the end of the world.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
People just need to chill.

Messi and his dad are pushing this as far as they possibly can and the City exec are right with them. They are not trying to leg us over in any way.
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unfortunately though it seems we will fail as it sounds his clause isnt clear about being able to leave?
 
21silva said:
Barely moved all week, that’s with different info and people betting I imagine. Now after an actual meeting and the odds drift massively, that would suggest some information...
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it suggests people have lumped money on him staying after the leaks this morning so the markets react, all that would be needed is a few people to put bets on him to come to city and it would change again
 
blue oli said:
Conversation went:
Is it possible that he may stay for one more year at Barca?
Response - anything is possible currently.
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estais estudiando la posibilidad de messi y se vaya el ano que viene libre? si
Are you studying the possibility of Messi and he goes free next year? yes
que tal la reunion con bartomeu ?muy bien.
How was the meeting with Bartomeu?very good.
 
21silva said:
Barely moved all week, that’s with different info and people betting I imagine. Now after an actual meeting and the odds drift massively, that would suggest some information...
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it’s everyone lumping on lol.why does anyone think bookies “know something”

it’s odds. They always WIN. There’s a line. They shift odds based on where money is being placed and shift the odds to ensure they’re always ahead in “profit” it’s basically a license to print money.
 
It is a circus at the moment with journalists following Messi and much written and inferred about very little.

We have come to the point where Messi has to make his intentions regarding his future at Barcelona clear. If he wants an exit, there is a clear exit route.

One season at Barca seems like an unsatisfactory solution for everyone.
 
richards30 said:
unfortunately though it seems we will fail as it sounds his clause isnt clear about being able to leave?
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Id be really surprised if the legal team that we have and that he has behind him hasnt looked over this and know exactly what is needed.

Remember this is the group that took on UEFA at CAS and tore them a new one.......
 
dan05delaney said:
it suggests people have lumped money on him staying after the leaks this morning so the markets react, all that would be needed is a few people to put bets on him to come to city and it would change again
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BlueBrain said:
it’s everyone lumping on lol.why does anyone think bookies “know something”

it’s odds. They always WIN. There’s a line. They shift odds based on where money is being placed and shift the odds to ensure they’re always ahead in “profit” it’s basically a license to print money.
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jimbopm said:
No it just means that there's been a glut of money being placed on Messi to stay and the odds are moving to reflect that.
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So they blindly work and just go with where the money is moving? As I say that would influence it a bit, I’m not having that’s the case here. It all looks very negative hence our odds improving....
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
People just need to chill.

Messi and his dad are pushing this as far as they possibly can and the City exec are right with them. They are not trying to leg us over in any way.
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What Bartycakes has done successfully, is shift the focus of discussion from 'will he leave for free now' to 'will he leave for free next year or will barca get a fee for him now.' Even temporarily . and for that i give him credit.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
People just need to chill.

Messi and his dad are pushing this as far as they possibly can and the City exec are right with them. They are not trying to leg us over in any way.
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I can understand people on here not chilling out though. We have been here before Kaka,jorginho sanchez etc etc, where the information was kindly given but never came to fruition, ITK's are great and appreciated but nothing is ever concrete, I've been around this forum way to many years to take any information as 100%. Let's hope Messi is arriving but don't be surprised if its next season not this..
 
blueinsa said:
Bookies dont get info, they take bets and those bets affect the odds.

Books like this will swing to and fro over even small wagers.
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I think there was some research on transfer odds not long ago and it was exposed that it actually takes very little money to swing those odds.
 
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