Sheikh rattle and roll
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why are we negotiating with RBL they had an option to purchase and like him
He has done well there
I would say price as per original agreement or he goes on the open market
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Angelino
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why are we negotiating with RBL they had an option to purchase and like him
He has done well there
I would say price as per original agreement or he goes on the open market
why are we negotiating with RBL they had an option to purchase and like him
He has done well there
I would say price as per original agreement or he goes on the open market
Totally agree. I've seen reports that the option to buy expired.
Doesn't mean the price should be any different.
Off to Leipzig for 20 mill euros or so apparently.
no doubt he will be worth 50 plus in a years time....
Not necessarily saying we should keep him but we are pretty poor at getting decent fees for players considering how well he did at Leipzig and his value to them.
no doubt he will be worth 50 plus in a years time....
Not necessarily saying we should keep him but we are pretty poor at getting decent fees for players considering how well he did at Leipzig and his value to them.
Off to Leipzig for 20 mill euros or so apparently.
no doubt he will be worth 50 plus in a years time....
Not necessarily saying we should keep him but we are pretty poor at getting decent fees for players considering how well he did at Leipzig and his value to them.
Get a percentage clause written in and its not a bad deal and its more likey to be £20+m
ninjamonkey
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I think it’s a mistake letting him go given his club trained status, he’s a free player in the squad and we’re going to need as big of a squad as possible this season but Pep clearly doesn’t rate him. He’s currently worth at least double that though, Chilwell went for £50 million and he’s better than him. Horrible deal for us.
Tixki is at his very best with this type of deal.
We have made a lot of money over the last few years with players who were never good enough for us.
We paid 5.3m euros for him last season from PSV, he came back into the side, clearly was not good enough and now sold for 20m plus.
Great business .
We have made a lot of money over the last few years with players who were never good enough for us.
We paid 5.3m euros for him last season from PSV, he came back into the side, clearly was not good enough and now sold for 20m plus.
Great business .
Stoned Rose
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Tixki is at his very best with this type of deal.
We have made a lot of money over the last few years with players who were never good enough for us.
We paid 5.3m euros for him last season from PSV, he came back into the side, clearly was not good enough and now sold for 20m plus.
Great business .
20m for a young, home grown player of his calibre is an astonishingly shit bit of business by us.
LOL if he was such a bargain, the clubs would be queing up for him.20m for a young, home grown player of his calibre is an astonishingly shit bit of business by us.
He can't defend, he is not the quickest, he gives the ball away cheaply , one footed, no aerial ability, apart from that he is outstanding.
Stoned Rose
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LOL if he was such a bargain, the clubs would be queing up for him.
He can't defend, he is not the quickest, he gives the ball away cheaply , one footed, no aerial ability, apart from that he is outstanding.
Beyond help.
The Angelino who played at Anfield last season and was ripped a new one?Beyond help.
The guy simply cannot defend, he makes Mendy look like Maldini, and as a LWB not good enough .
We've gone from Barca been rumoured at £30m to another season long loan with an obligation to buy at a measly 20m Euros.
He must only want Leipzig, which is understandable after he seems to be settled there after doing so well, but that's a terrible deal from our POV.
I could perhaps understand a drop in value from our original 25m Euro release clause if it's paid right now, but giving them another season on loan when his value is only going to increase is just baffling.
There must be a sell on and potentially a buy back clause included in the deal in order for us to settle on that.
I suppose one positive angle we could look at it is building a positive relationship with Leipzig for the future. They're a talent factory and are only going to get bigger and better - being on good terms with them and scratching their back now might well put us ahead of the queue in the future.
He must only want Leipzig, which is understandable after he seems to be settled there after doing so well, but that's a terrible deal from our POV.
I could perhaps understand a drop in value from our original 25m Euro release clause if it's paid right now, but giving them another season on loan when his value is only going to increase is just baffling.
There must be a sell on and potentially a buy back clause included in the deal in order for us to settle on that.
I suppose one positive angle we could look at it is building a positive relationship with Leipzig for the future. They're a talent factory and are only going to get bigger and better - being on good terms with them and scratching their back now might well put us ahead of the queue in the future.
Do you really think if there was even the remote chance that Barca wanted him, he would have signed for RB, however much he enjoyed his time there?We've gone from Barca been rumoured at £30m to another season long loan with an obligation to buy at a measly 20m Euros.
He must only want Leipzig, which is understandable after he seems to be settled there after doing so well, but that's a terrible deal from our POV.
I could perhaps understand a drop in value from our original 25m Euro release clause if it's paid right now, but giving them another season when his value is only going to increase is just baffling.
There must be a sell on and potentially a buy back clause included in the deal in order for us to settle on that.
20m for a young, home grown player of his calibre is an astonishingly shit bit of business by us.
He didn't do too well the first time and it would be pointless bringing him back now. Get what we can and move on.
Do you really think if there was even the remote chance that Barca wanted him, he would have signed for RB, however much he enjoyed his time there?
You never know. He's got a starting role at a very good Bundesliga team, looks very settled amongst the squad and has a young, talented coach training him.
Perhaps after 3 seasons of jumping around on loans and being brought back only to be loaned out again, his primary focus is finding somewhere he can settle and continue to develop as a player?
He's at his best as a wingback, Barca don't deploy such a system - maybe that forms part of his thinking?
Barca are also a complete mess to the outsider right now, and there's no guarantee he goes there to be a starter with Alba still knocking around.
There are a lot of variables to suggest he may well side with staying at Leipzig, rather than going to Barca (if the rumours were even true). He's only 23, if he continues to perform like he's done since January, he's not closing off the possibility of joining a Barca or Madrid in the future.
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If our supposed first choice, Mendy, wasn't injured for three-quarters of a season, he would've been the perfect second option. He's decent enough and won't cost us a non-home-grown slot. I still would rather have him than Zinchenko.
So we loan him to Leipzig in January with a €30m buy option, he plays well enough to make the Champion's League squad of the season, and then we loan him again, but with a €20m buy obligation this time? Meanwhile we have Ben Mendy and Zinchenko? Real shrewd business right here.
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No, I had high hopes when he came back but the couple of games I saw him as a full back he looked hopeless. As a wing back attacking for Lepzig he's good. But not for us. £20 mill with add ons or sell on would be a good deal.If our supposed first choice, Mendy, wasn't injured for three-quarters of a season, he would've been the perfect second option. He's decent enough and won't cost us a non-home-grown slot. I still would rather have him than Zinchenko.