It's Quiet thread 14 - 'do one' edition

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Marvin said:
We should remember that the signing of players are an means to an end: the creation of a team that wins games and titles, rather than an end in itself.

Messi is an ego-project for some Manchester City fans who are desperate for their club to be taken seriously but the way to do that is to re-build our side, and particularly a defence that is no longer fit for purpose. Liverpool won the league because they were a machine. They don't have the flair of Kevin de Bruyne or the dancing feet of Bernardo but neither do they have a 35 year old midfielder playing at the heart of their defence. They were truly hard to beat whereas Manchester City could monopolise possession for 70 minutes of the 90 and concede a goal to the first serious counter-attack. Manchester City became a soft-touch and by the end of the season Pep was so frightened of another CL quarter final defeat that the man of footballing principle panicked and filled his midfield with defensive players.

Now is the time to fix City's broken team. City have signed the cultured Nathan Ake but many fans fear the ghost of Kompany. His boots lie empty only to be filled by a right sided defender. Speculation centred on the matador of Naples. Legend tells he floored Salah but fighting is a young man's game. Spanish headlines this morning turn to the Berber City of Seville, and their young defender Kounde. Not much is known about their young lion but he appears ferociously quick and fierce in the tackle. City fan's will hope that the tale ends here in the Arab city of Seville.
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If we sign the pace of Kounde at CB and get some pace in CM we have a title winning side and squad.
 
Marvin said:
We should remember that the signing of players are an means to an end: the creation of a team that wins games and titles, rather than an end in itself.

Messi is an ego-project for some Manchester City fans who are desperate for their club to be taken seriously but the way to do that is to re-build our side, and particularly a defence that is no longer fit for purpose. Liverpool won the league because they were a machine. They don't have the flair of Kevin de Bruyne or the dancing feet of Bernardo but neither do they have a 35 year old midfielder playing at the heart of their defence. They were truly hard to beat whereas Manchester City could monopolise possession for 70 minutes of the 90 and concede a goal to the first serious counter-attack. Manchester City became a soft-touch and by the end of the season Pep was so frightened of another CL quarter final defeat that the man of footballing principle panicked and filled his midfield with defensive players.

Now is the time to fix City's broken team. City have signed the cultured Nathan Ake but many fans fear the ghost of Kompany. His boots lie empty only to be filled by a right sided defender. Speculation centred on the matador of Naples. Legend tells he floored Salah but fighting is a young man's game. Spanish headlines this morning turn to the Berber City of Seville, and their young defender Kounde. Not much is known about their young lion but he appears ferociously quick and fierce in the tackle. City fan's will hope that the tale ends here in the Arab city of Seville.
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If we sign the pace of Kounde at CB and get some pace in CM we have a title winning side and squad.
 
Knowing that we need to get a quality replacement in at CB that should have been done ages ago....why the hell are we continually low balling bids that have no chance of succeeding ?
 
Marvin said:
We should remember that the signing of players are an means to an end: the creation of a team that wins games and titles, rather than an end in itself.

Messi is an ego-project for some Manchester City fans who are desperate for their club to be taken seriously but the way to do that is to re-build our side, and particularly a defence that is no longer fit for purpose. Liverpool won the league because they were a machine. They don't have the flair of Kevin de Bruyne or the dancing feet of Bernardo but neither do they have a 35 year old midfielder playing at the heart of their defence. They were truly hard to beat whereas Manchester City could monopolise possession for 70 minutes of the 90 and concede a goal to the first serious counter-attack. Manchester City became a soft-touch and by the end of the season Pep was so frightened of another CL quarter final defeat that the man of footballing principle panicked and filled his midfield with defensive players.

Now is the time to fix City's broken team. City have signed the cultured Nathan Ake but many fans fear the ghost of Kompany. His boots lie empty only to be filled by a right sided defender. Speculation centred on the matador of Naples. Legend tells he floored Salah but fighting is a young man's game. Spanish headlines this morning turn to the Berber City of Seville, and their young defender Kounde. Not much is known about their young lion but he appears ferociously quick and fierce in the tackle. City fan's will hope that the tale ends here in the Arab city of Seville.
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Love the lyricism of this, but you let yourself get carried away a bit. A defence that is no longer fit for purpose? You don't think that that's a tad overstated? We conceded two goals more than the champions, and had a better record than every other team in the league. We need a bloody good central defender — not merely a fairly good one — who plays on the front foot and reads the game, and, ideally, someone in front of him to give Fern a well deserved rest (Rodri may be capable of doing that job — he's being judged too quickly by some on here). That's it.
Agree with you about Messi, by the way. I'm a victim of it myself. The idea of seeing Messi in sky blue just gives me a stiffy. And at my age, that is something to be treasured. Too much information…
 
It will only take a couple of signings now and the positivity will come flooding back. Another striker arriving and centre half obviously, and we're all set.
 
Marvin said:
We should remember that the signing of players are an means to an end: the creation of a team that wins games and titles, rather than an end in itself.

Messi is an ego-project for some Manchester City fans who are desperate for their club to be taken seriously but the way to do that is to re-build our side, and particularly a defence that is no longer fit for purpose. Liverpool won the league because they were a machine. They don't have the flair of Kevin de Bruyne or the dancing feet of Bernardo but neither do they have a 35 year old midfielder playing at the heart of their defence. They were truly hard to beat whereas Manchester City could monopolise possession for 70 minutes of the 90 and concede a goal to the first serious counter-attack. Manchester City became a soft-touch and by the end of the season Pep was so frightened of another CL quarter final defeat that the man of footballing principle panicked and filled his midfield with defensive players.

Now is the time to fix City's broken team. City have signed the cultured Nathan Ake but many fans fear the ghost of Kompany. His boots lie empty only to be filled by a right sided defender. Speculation centred on the matador of Naples. Legend tells he floored Salah but fighting is a young man's game. Spanish headlines this morning turn to the Berber City of Seville, and their young defender Kounde. Not much is known about their young lion but he appears ferociously quick and fierce in the tackle. City fan's will hope that the tale ends here in the Arab city of Seville.
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I watched all our games last season we make enough chances really good chances to win every game but because of back four changes in every game it’s cost us! Pep needs to play the same back four for more than one game, maybe it was he doesn’t trust the players I don’t know but keep changing the back four doesn’t help the understanding.
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
Love the lyricism of this, but you let yourself get carried away a bit. A defence that is no longer fit for purpose? You don't think that that's a tad overstated? We conceded two goals more than the champions, and had a better record than every other team in the league. We need a bloody good central defender — not merely a fairly good one — who plays on the front foot and reads the game, and, ideally, someone in front of him to give Fern a well deserved rest (Rodri may be capable of doing that job — he's being judged too quickly by some on here). That's it.
Agree with you about Messi, by the way. I'm a victim of it myself. The idea of seeing Messi in sky blue just gives me a stiffy. And at my age, that is something to be treasured. Too much information…
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In 2018/19 we conceded 23 goals in the league, in 2019/20 it was 35. I know we lost Laporte for most of the season but it's still a problem and it puts too much stress on the rest of the side. Concede first and you lift the opponent, and clear-cut chances for an equaliser are snatched at.
 
Marvin said:
In 2018/19 we conceded 23 goals in the league, in 2019/20 it was 35. I know we lost Laporte for most of the season but it's still a problem and it puts too much stress on the rest of the side. Concede first and you lift the opponent, and clear-cut chances for an equaliser are snatched at.
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How many did we concede in the games with Laporte?
 
I know we scored loads last season but we also missed really good chances (mostly Sterling) to score a bucket load more. If the forward players spent more time in training practicing finishing (maybe they do) I'm convinced those 9 losses would have only been maybe 3 or 4. Our conversion percentage is probably quite low compared to other teams so if we can up that a little we'll be hard to stop!
 
The Future is Blue said:
I know we scored loads last season but we also missed really good chances (mostly Sterling) to score a bucket load more. If the forward players spent more time in training practicing finishing (maybe they do) I'm convinced those 9 losses would have only been maybe 3 or 4. Our conversion percentage is probably quite low compared to other teams so if we can up that a little we'll be hard to stop!
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If Benzema had finished as well as he normally does, when Laporte fucked up, then we might not have made it through to be humiliated by Lyon.

But, we all know for sure, that Real's defenders were more relevant, in that tie.

Same with ours.
 
The Future is Blue said:
I know we scored loads last season but we also missed really good chances (mostly Sterling) to score a bucket load more. If the forward players spent more time in training practicing finishing (maybe they do) I'm convinced those 9 losses would have only been maybe 3 or 4. Our conversion percentage is probably quite low compared to other teams so if we can up that a little we'll be hard to stop!
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I agree that our main problem is taking our chances. We create a shedload but piss them away. Other teams only create 1 or 2 against us but they take them. That is ultimately what the biggest difference was between us and the scousers last season. They didn’t create anywhere near as many chances as we did but they regularly took them.

Some posters are quick to point to all the goals we scored but stat-padding against the likes of Watford, Bournemouth, etc won’t change the fact that we lost 9 games, most of which we could’ve won if we’d been more clinical.

Sterling, Jesus and Mahrez are the biggest culprits. Sergio is our only clinical finisher and it’s clear that we can’t rely on him to stay fit for a whole season. This is why in my opinion a new striker should’ve been bought this window or should be bought next season at the very least. Sure, we’ve bought Torres and hopefully he will be good but based on his stats there’s no evidence to suggest that he will be clinical and put away the chances Sterling, Jesus and Mahrez regularly piss away game after game.
 
racecar said:
I agree that our main problem is taking our chances. We create a shedload but piss them away. Other teams only create 1 or 2 against us but they take them. That is ultimately what the biggest difference was between us and the scousers last season. They didn’t create anywhere near as many chances as we did but they regularly took them.

Some posters are quick to point to all the goals we scored but stat-padding against the likes of Watford, Bournemouth, etc won’t change the fact that we lost 9 games, most of which we could’ve won if we’d been more clinical.

Sterling, Jesus and Mahrez are the biggest culprits. Sergio is our only clinical finisher and it’s clear that we can’t rely on him to stay fit for a whole season. This is why in my opinion a new striker should’ve been bought this window or should be bought next season at the very least. Sure, we’ve bought Torres and hopefully he will be good but based on his stats there’s no evidence to suggest that he will be clinical and put away the chances Sterling, Jesus and Mahrez regularly piss away game after game.
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I know we do miss a few but that is rather OTT
 
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