Leicester City (H) Post Match Thread

[Keeper!]

No he didn't, he had 20 touches in total, and 100% pass success, and the 5 picking the ball out of the net don't count as touches, nothing he could do about any of the goals, he also made one good save from a shot on target. Schmeichel didn't have to make a save of note.

Anyone blaming Ederson is deluded, the guy must be gutted with the defending of this team in front of him.

 

[Keeper!]

Damanino said:
Pep mentioned multiple time how anxious and nervous the players got.

2nd league game, we play at home, vs Leicester City, and players get extremely anxious/nervous even after dominating possession for 30 minutes and Leicester not creating any kind of chance until the first pen.

Something is fucking wrong with the mentality if seasoned pros get so nervous in a game like this.

Imagine how nervous they might have been vs Lyon where stakes were so much higher than in latest game. How nervous
Pep must have been t change his tactics completely for Lyon and have it backfired...

They should be fearless lions or sharks not nervous dogs.

They dont know what to do on the pitch , how to break down defences that dont give us easy chances, they absolutely dont know how to defend counters from to front, not mentioning at the back while midfield is bypassed pretty much like hot knife through the butter, this makes them anxious and nervous.
Opponents get a feeling for our anxious play and that makes them even more determined to punish us and they do it a lot.

This is a mentality thing that stems from our tactics imo. Very risky high line defence with wrong personnel and shit pressing with players not working hard enough or with players not enough pace. Recipe for a disaster really. Players get nervous middle of game. This is not a one off...

Honestly if things wont change tactically I expect more of the same losses, not losing 5-2, but losing with very same pattern in terms of issues on midfield, creating/converting clear chances and conceding 2 goals from every 3 shots conceded (that are on target) on average.

Putting Ruben Dias in CB can change it a bit and help a bit (unless he needs a full first season to adapt to new tactics, new country, new league, which happens to many of our signings) but it wont solve midfield issues and other off the ball issues, defending from the front etc.

If anyone doubted how serious things are , go and watch Joseph Pep Guardiola's first pre match press conference of the season.

The man was broken, flat, depressed and looked totally disinterested, he was a train wreck.

The team yesterday was a carbon copy of their manager.

I was derided on here for saying the Lyon defeat had done massive damage to the dressing room.

Well I stand by every word I said about that night.

The manor of that defeat was the end of Pep's time with us. Appealing team selection, appaling tactics and a terrible defeat to a team we should be destroying.He lost the dressing room that night and he will never get it back to the levels of 2 seasons ago.

 

[GOULDYBOBS]

Two passes and a ball over the top and teams are in behind

 

[mancity1]

The problems at this club start at the top of the footballing operations, Tixki , Ferran and Pep.

All 3 Barca men, all outstanding at Barca and were to start with us. The game has changed rapidly in the last couple of seasons, pace, stamina, athleticism and style of play.

We have not evolved with it, Pep is stuck with his footballing principles, as noble as they are, they are holding us back.

His arrogance has no bounds, 12 months ago we suffered a terrible defeat to Norwich, a poor team who simply showed the rest how easy it was to beat us. The rest followed , let us have the ball, rack up ridiculous possession stats, only for then to hit us on the break and score easily. 12 months later and the "world's greatest football manager" is still making the same mistakes.

The director of football, still living off the remains on Hughes and Mancini's spine, that served this club magnificently, KDB apart we simply have failed to replace that spine with like for like quality players. We have spent 18 months looking for a CB, we have spent 100s of millions on poor full backs, have watched Aguero getting older and not looked at a long term replacement.

The CEO, Ferran cares more for his CFG baby than MCFC, time for him to move over to run the CFG full time and bring in a full time Manchester City CEO.

This club has gone and is going backwards quickly, either Pep signs up to rebuild this club over the next 3 years, or the club have to say adios and thank you.

Well summarised , if we think this game plan with the squad we have will stack up again we are in self denial.

All that will happen is the poundings will continue more frequently and we will have conceded more goals by Christmas than we did in title winning years.

Leeds will score a hatful if we defend like that again and we will already be 6 points off the pace mathematically 9.

 

[Matt the Giant]

Can someone please explain to me, why the game changed as it did after around 30 minutes. Up until then we were fully dominant and in control, had a one goal lead. Leicester were defending with the entire team deep in their own half, Vardy was positioned like pretty much as a midfielder, and they looked like they were out classed... but then it changed.

Was it Brenda who made some tactical changes, which,if so?
And had Pep no counter change to make?
Was it our squad who got tired after only half an hour?


It amazes me how a game can change so drastically. Sure, it's a huge part of what makes it such a great sport to watch, but this is a bit too much. With their first goal we looked defeated, almost like we gave up.
Not pretty to watch.

 

[Keeper!]

Well summarised , if we think this game plan with the squad we have will stack up again we are in self denial.

All that will happen is the poundings will continue more frequently and we will have conceded more goals by Christmas than we did in title winning years.

Leeds will score a hatful if we defend like that again and we will already be 6 points off the pace mathematically 9.

Jurgen Klopp who gets slaughtered on here has evolved his game plan to suit the league and his players. In the early part of his dippers career his team ran out of steam during a game and they suffered. What did he do? Evolve, 3 pacey forwards and a hard working athletic midfield, often they bypass the midfield, so what! it works, it gets results, it won them a title and a Champs league.

Football evolves, great managers and coaches have to evolve, if they don't their time is over.

Jose, Venger once the best but stuck in their ways and no longer the best. I don't want to add Pep to that list but unless he changes quickly, he will be joining them.

 

[Cheeky Txiki]

The pursuit of Messi this summer was a joke.

Completely true. As soon as everyone knew we were in for Messi and had insane cash to spend, negotiations got difficult. ADL wanted more, Sevilla wanted more. On top of that, Txiki would rather have a victory over ADL than get our main transfer done before the league started. Napoli are yet to concede in their league by the way, so I don't think ADL gives a rat's ass. Pep also needs to put forth his decision quickly, we can't be in a 'transition season' with no idea of the manager's long term future. Nagelsmann has hinted of wanting here, and if Pep doesn't say whether he is with us for the long run, let's start our pursuit of Nagelsmann.

 

[Saddleworth2]

Can someone please explain to me, why the game changed as it did after around 30 minutes. Up until then we were fully dominant and in control, had a one goal lead. Leicester were defending with the entire team deep in their own half, Vardy was positioned like pretty much as a midfielder, and they looked like they were out classed... but then it changed.

Was it Brenda who made some tactical changes, which,if so?
And had Pep no counter change to make?
Was it our squad who got tired after only half an hour?


It amazes me how a game can change so drastically. Sure, it's a huge part of what makes it such a great sport to watch, but this is a bit too much. With their first goal we looked defeated, almost like we gave up.
Not pretty to watch.

We stopped running and our press was piss poor. Leicester just started to play a little. You didn’t have to be particularly good to beat us yesterday. What other team can you remember conceding 3 penalties. Peps demeanour the whole of this season has been piss poor. It certainly won’t inspire the squad.

 

[baggy]

Pep promised that we would get better year on year. We've actually gone backwards since we last won the league. Love pep but we seem to get done very easily by one style of play of which we haven't resolved in 18+ months. On yesterday's evidence this season will go exactly the same as last.

 

[razman]

Pep either has to commit now or we need to have a succession plan so someone can take over. If Liverpool win today vs Arsenal they will already be ahead.

Also, while it has been obvious for a while, but we don't have a leader on the pitch since Vinny left... Yes kdb and fernandinho are there... But they just don't give that vibe

Supposedly Dias is a leader, so let's hopw he steps up.

Apart from Dias, Aouor and A LB are must but am not sure if we are getting anyone.

Let's hope Txiki and Pep wake up.

 

[razman]

We stopped running and our press was piss poor. Leicester just started to play a little. You didn’t have to be particularly good to beat us yesterday. What other team can you remember conceding 3 penalties. Peps demeanour the whole of this season has been piss poor. It certainly won’t inspire the squad.

His mom did pass away, so his demeanor is a bit understandable, BUT again he either has to commit or this should be his last season with a succession plan in place

 

[Keeper!]

Can someone please explain to me, why the game changed as it did after around 30 minutes. Up until then we were fully dominant and in control, had a one goal lead. Leicester were defending with the entire team deep in their own half, Vardy was positioned like pretty much as a midfielder, and they looked like they were out classed... but then it changed.

Was it Brenda who made some tactical changes, which,if so?
And had Pep no counter change to make?
Was it our squad who got tired after only half an hour?


It amazes me how a game can change so drastically. Sure, it's a huge part of what makes it such a great sport to watch, but this is a bit too much. With their first goal we looked defeated, almost like we gave up.
Not pretty to watch.

Because our 34 yr old once magnificent DMF player could not get around the pitch, The first goal for Leicester ,Fern was taken out with one body swerve and the whole pitch opened up , two pases and it's in the back of the net.

Leicester were looking at the calendar, they though Santa had come 3 months too soon.

 

[Gingers Dad]

Team picked itself because of the absentees. Garcia is the worst CB we've had since the 90's. Anyone know where Stones was?

 

[Matt the Giant]

We stopped running and our press was piss poor. Leicester just started to play a little. You didn’t have to be particularly good to beat us yesterday. What other team can you remember conceding 3 penalties. Peps demeanour the whole of this season has been piss poor. It certainly won’t inspire the squad.

Thanks for your input.
But then I wonder, why did we stop running? Were we tired? Did we think the game was already won due to our dominance?
Maybe the squad collectively mentally lost it's enthusiasm and dedication as Kyle really needlessly gave Leicester their penalty?

In my opinion, you in fact needed to be formidable to beat us yesterday, based on the first 30 minutes. But then... well, we all know what happened.
I just can't get my head around a collapse such as this. And it should be avoidable!

 

[mancity1]

Pep promised that we would get better year on year. We've actually gone backwards since we last won the league. Love pep but we seem to get done very easily by one style of play of which we haven't resolved in 18+ months. On yesterday's evidence this season will go exactly the same as last.

Much worse position wise I fear.

This squad is no better than last year and Ferny and Kun are at the end of their careers at our club now.

 

[kdbrise]

I watched the game again, it was Rodri's lack of pace and awareness which single handedly cost us Leicester's 2nd and 4th goal.
I have been saying this for months, why can't Pep and team see this with all that video analysis.

 

[Matt the Giant]

Because our 34 yr old once magnificent DMF player could not get around the pitch, The first goal for Leicester ,Fern was taken out with one body swerve and the whole pitch opened up , two pases and it's in the back of the net.

Leicester were looking at the calendar, they though Santa had come 3 months too soon.

Cheers.
So did Brenda made the tactical decision to sit back during the start of the game, only to slowly love the team up the pitch and exploit our weak(er) players?

I'm asking cause I'm really interested and curious about how we somehow sometimes manage to switch from formidable to lost in just a few minutes. I don't really see such collapses from other top teams.

 

[The1nvisibleMan]

Our style of play is so stagnant at the minute and I don’t know why Pep doesn’t change some things. When he first arrived he realised it wasn’t working and set out to change some things and he did well but since then its same old same old and we’re too predictable

 

[Keeper!]

Cheers.
So did Brenda made the tactical decision to sit back during the start of the game, only to slowly love the team up the pitch and exploit our weak(er) players?

I'm asking cause I'm really interested and curious about how we somehow sometimes manage to switch from formidable to lost in just a few minutes. I don't really see such collapses from other top teams.

We scored a wonder goal, I never thought we looked good at any point.

No pace, no urgency, little enthusiasm all over the pitch.

A carbon copy of much of last season, look at the bench, carbon copy of the players on the pitch.

 

[The1nvisibleMan]

We scored a wonder goal, I never thought we looked good at any point.

No pace, no urgency, little enthusiasm all over the pitch.

A carbon copy of much of last season, look at the bench, carbon copy of the players on the pitch.

This is why I’m so angry because people are blaming the loss on not having a right sided centreback or players being injured but it’s the same shit thats been happening for the past year. The passing is slow and directionless and we do fuck all with it. So we’re left with 70%+ possession but whenever we lose it if’s almost guaranteed to be a goal