Leicester City (H) Post Match Thread

Yes, we were poor by our standards. Yes, we outplayed Leicester by a distance nevertheless. Yes 12 stone Leicester players did unnatural vertical take-offs like fairies when a City arm exerted no force whatsoever. Yes, our players carry on running when fouled in the box. But that's not my point. With David leaving, we have lost the greatest Prem player of the last ten years - better and far more consistent than Hazard. And with Sergio injured, we are temporarily without the greatest goalscorer in Prem history - the guy with a better strike rate than Henry. Sergio gets into the heads of the opposition, scares the life out of them, makes them wary of attacking us. So when he comes back, no more moaning from some that 'He's not quite what he was'. He's everything and more than what he was. Always annoyed me on here when a small number of 'know very littles' tried to make out that David was fading. He wasn't fading. Never relied on pace, tenacious in the tackle, monumental assist rate, imperious passer of the ball, scoring goals. David and Sergio have character - gentle characters off the pitch - hard as nails on it. They are bona fide geniuses. Any team in the world would miss those two geniuses.
He was fading that's why he left.
 
Only just lifted my head since Sunday. A lot of sore and angry folks on here. I feel your pain but feel this has been coming. What really gets me is I have lost interest in football over last couple of seasons. VAR and corruption have soiled it beyond redemption.
But after Sunday I feel i would look like I was backing away because we are looking shit. Sounds like RAG behaviour. So in a perverse way i am now fully back on board so I can say I was there when we were shit (yet again).
Soiled ? Spoiled ? Both words are correct.
 
Hypothetically speaking, would you sacrifice any of Ederson's distribution skills if he was better in 1 on 1s and those crucial game turning saves that Harty used to produce when we needed it most ?
Joe had a considerably better clean sheet record playing in a mediocre England team for 70-odd games than Neuer after a similar number playing in one of the greatest international teams of all time. Got slaughtered for a small number of goals conceded that he would normally save. Meanwhile, Pickford has made a massively higher number of mistakes for England than Joe in many fewer games. For us, Joe won four Golden Gloves - a record. Eddie won the Golden Gloves last year playing behind our struggling defence. Get off his back. No chance with the five on Sunday.
 
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Thing is though teams sit so deep on us that having a ball playing goalkeeper like Ederson is now almost redundant. How often do we suck teams in any more and play through them with him involved. If teams don't press us high then his value is diminshed. Pinging balls to Sane or Sterling on the fly seems a thing of the past too.
Sane had all the attacking attributes Pep wants, but none of the defensive qualities. You play for Pep, you're expected to track back - like Raheem and Kevin do.
 
Yeah, I can’t recall another win from a losing position tbh. I’m looking at the Leicester game with another angle now. If Ferna hadn’t missed that sitter and Rodri not gone too early, it would have been a different game completely. The 3 penalties apart, we weren’t as bad as I first thought. However, it was not up to our normal standards.
Spot on.
 
Joe had a considerably better clean sheet record playing in a mediocre England team for 70-odd games than Neuer after a similar number playing in one of the greatest international teams of all time. Got slaughtered for a small number of goals conceded that he would normally save. Meanwhile, Pickford has made a massively higher number of mistakes for England than Joe in many fewer games. For us, Joe won four Golden Gloves - a record. Eddie jointly won the Golden Gloves last year playing behind our struggling defence. Get off his back. No chance with the five on Sunday.
Gets nowhere near penalties though, and shouldn't have been beaten by that Vardy flick still a great keeper though
 
Some on here making out that all teams no longer push onto our CBs - a situation our defence is designed to take advantage of. Depends on the team we're playing and whether we get an early goal. We have always needed an early goal against the lesser teams to draw them out, and even after we go 1 - 0 up, some teams have always chosen to sit back. Anyway, Dias has signed for us. A monumental talent.
 
It’s not just if down at HT.. I’m struggling to think of many games where we have conceded first and turned it around. No Plan B as we assume that if we go ahead we will win. Not a negative comment just fact.
As you say no plan B . The unpalatable truth would seem Pep seems incapable of changing a game that’s going wrong. As the worlds best coach should he not possess that basic tenet of strategical genius to turn a game around?
 
Yeah, I can’t recall another win from a losing position tbh. I’m looking at the Leicester game with another angle now. If Ferna hadn’t missed that sitter and Rodri not gone too early, it would have been a different game completely. The 3 penalties apart, we weren’t as bad as I first thought. However, it was not up to our normal standards.

We came from behind to beat Brighton on the final day, a couple of seasons ago - to win the title. But that was the only league game we won from a losing position that season. In fact, we only even came back for a draw once: Wolves away.
 
We came from behind to beat Brighton on the final day, a couple of seasons ago - to win the title. But that was the only league game we won from a losing position that season. In fact, we only even came back for a draw once: Wolves away.
True... then Watford was the only other I can remember.
 
Oh you were there I take it. It’s not one game but keep telling yourself whatever helps.
Whether I was there or not is a moot point - the relevance is the lowest period of our existence, not my attendance.

Also, it is one game, 3 points lost.
Last season was one season, not a marker for our future endeavours.
We fell below our standards last year, but I feel there were real tangible reasons for that. we bought a centre mid to replace ferna, in the belief that ferna could cover at CB (didn't work) and a right back to keep KW on his toes.

I feel this window we have addressed the issues we suffered with last year, with the exception of a striker (now needed!).

I still don't think last season was that bad either, we won a trophy and i do see us challenging for the title this year.
 
I was thinking that myself, but maybe their is something in the reason why we have not gone and been ruthless in the window ?

I dont know.

That is why this season is not just about mounting a title challenge but we need to progress in europe as well.

If the players dont look like respinding to Pep and we struggle - in my eyes I think he goes by his choice.
Think 63m on Dias could mean the opposite, think Tikki would have put that to Pep before breaking our transfer record!
 
£80m? Good but not that good
No one's worth £80m (or £75m which VVD actually cost) imo mate. It's a ridiculous figure for any player, nevermind a CB. However, in the current climate of astronomical transfer fees, to Liverpool, he was worth every penny! Bringing him and Alison in, won them the league. Do you think they made a mistake buying VVD and should have gone for a much cheaper option? I wish he had have been a complete waste of money, but he clearly wasn't.
 
as they say football is a game of opinions, but I'd much rather pay to watch Sane any day than a selfish one-trick pony.
I'm not sure 'one-trick pony' is fair, although I do know what you mean. However, he is definitely selfish! Proper greedy t**t. He needs being told to sort that out.
 

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