COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Healdplace said:
Correct the data I give here are only from people on ventiltors with a positive Covid test.

I am sure NHS England has ICU stats separate from patients with Covid.

But they do not put these on the Covid data bases for obvious reasons.
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ok thank you, they have seemed reluctant to display numbers in ICU beds with covid, unsure why. only ventilated patients.
 
Len Rum said:
14542 new cases UK
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Wow and that's without catch up cases I assume. Where the fuck are people catching it? Despite me thinking it couldn't happen I do think we are moving ever closer to another lockdown even for only two weeks to try and slow this virus down. It's mental that people are ignoring social distancing, wearing of masks, hand washing etc...
 
Eds said:
Wow and that's without catch up cases I assume. Where the fuck are people catching it? Despite me thinking it couldn't happen I do think we are moving ever closer to another lockdown even for only two weeks to try and slow this virus down. It's mental that people are ignoring social distancing, wearing of masks, hand washing etc...
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Yeah Ed Conway on Sky saying they have been assured this is no longer a backlog effect.
 
bluemoon32 said:
But i didn't say that, i said the shops should police it, anyone ( without a health certificate) who isn't wearing a mask should be stopped from entering the shop.
The problem is, too many think any rules don't apply to them but these people are cnuts anyway and not just during this covid thing
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What’s a health certificate?
 
Regional scoreboard:

London 916 - down from 989 - as you see London is really not part of this in a big way right now.

Midlands 1059 - up from 906

Yorkshire 2437 - up from 2194

North West 4441 - up from 3166 - as you can see by far the biggest case increase is in the NW today. Over a third of the entire UK total. And five times London,
 
Healdplace said:
Regional scoreboard:

London 916 - down from 989 - as you see London is really not part of this in a big way right now.

Midlands 1059 - up from 906

Yorkshire 2437 - up from 2194

North West 4441 - up from 3166 - as you can see by far the biggest case increase is in the NW today. Over a third of the entire UK total. And five times London,
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That's a big number. Is there any data on how many tests/region are made?
 
For comparison here are the daily numbers from 51 days ago - in the early days of the NW restrictions when its numbers in the past few days had gone up to just above the other regions.

London 136 - since then it has added 18, 616 cases

Midlands 134 - since then it has added 19, 619 cases

Yorkshire 133 - since then it has added 27, 434 cases

North West 200 - since then it has added 56, 268 cases.


You would be hard pressed to say which area has had the most 'lockdown' measures and which none over the past 51 days from those numbers.

At 106, 172 cases in the NW as of today and 61, 668 Yorkshire and 48.300 Midlands and 55.709 London only one area stands out.

To show it is not just because there are more people their regional Pop(ulation) Scores (which even things out and are in effect cases per 100,000 inhabitants) taken as a whole region reveal this too:

London is very low at 622 - nowhere in Greater Manchester is anywhere near that but 51 days ago this was almost exactly where Manchester as a city was then and its now more than triple that number heading for 2000.

Midlands are 814 - again far better than anywhere in GM.

Yorkshire 1121 - around the level of the lowest ranking boroughs in GM

And North West 1446 - better than more than half of GM,
 
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bluejon said:
I have flat out said the imperial college model is wrong because it is. What has happened is not what the model has said. That is not up for debate in my eyes.

I have never turned on healdplace at all and have in fact had some really good private message chats with that poster. As for you 'seeing through me', you're adding 1+1 and coming out with about 200.

As for 'pretending to care about suicide and jobs'..... fuck me. It's entirely possible that I have lost a close friend during this as a result of suicide, and it's entirely possible that friends are losing their jobs left right and centre and i'm deeply worried for them. I'm also worried about people getting this virus. And this terminology of me being 'denier' i'm actually finding slightly disturbing. I am a scientist who works with healthcare data. We are discussing healthcare data. With my qualifications I could've gone to work in pretty much any industry sector I wish but because I have a moral centre I decided to go with healthcare/medicine. I thought being on here would provide something different and I don't need posts like this chatting absolute shite.
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You like to blow your own trumpet that's for sure but all i see you doing is
say the science is wrong
say the media is wrong
state your own alternate view is right
I see through you.
 
Healdplace said:
Correct the data I give here are only from people on ventilators with a positive Covid test.

I am sure NHS England has ICU stats separate from patients with Covid.

But they do not put these on the Covid data bases for obvious reasons.

Northern Ireland does do this and today reports:

93 total icu beds

13 occupied by covid patients

60 other icu occupied

20 icu beds unoccupied

45 ventilated patients on icu

8 with proven covid diagnosis and 37 without.

If that helps.
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Since September 1st there have been 250 admissions from care homes and 95 of these have been from the NW and 79 from NE and Yorkshire.
Thats 38% from the NW and 32% from York’s and NE. Of the 23 announced today, 21 were from those two areas with twice as many from the NW (14 and 7).
 
Blue Maverick said:
Why is the NW so bad? i Can’t believe London which is more densely populated isn’t worse.
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The most densely populated areas in London had it hugely in March so they’re unlikely to get anywhere near those levels again. NW has lots of depravation, houses of multiple occupancy and is probably choc full of people who cannot afford an unpaid day off work, never mind 2 weeks, if they feel a bit ropey.
 
Healdplace said:
Regional scoreboard:

London 916 - down from 989 - as you see London is really not part of this in a big way right now.

Midlands 1059 - up from 906

Yorkshire 2437 - up from 2194

North West 4441 - up from 3166 - as you can see by far the biggest case increase is in the NW today. Over a third of the entire UK total. And five times London,
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My daughter is one of those cases. She is a student and she has been ultra careful, she wears masks everywhere and sanitises everything, she isn't in halls, hasn't even been in any Uni buildings and has not been in any pubs or restaurants or to house parties, she lives in a flat with one other person who is hardly ever there and so genuinely has no idea where she has caught it from. This is one very contagious disease, thankfully she has mild symptoms.
 
The Northern Baptist said:
What would you say would be an acceptable/palatable number of daily deaths (and for how long a period) for us to operate the economy as normal. Or if you like what would be an acceptable total death count once this is over.

I have asked this a couple of times elsewhere to the ‘let’s open everything up’ brigade and never got a response.
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This has always been the heart of the problem and in fairness to our get back to as much normality as possible brigrade this is a question for the very cautious as well. Never seen anyone answer it.
 
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