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The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
13972 new cases by date reported today then.
Just over 36000 less than the chuckle brothers had predicted we’d have by October 12th, with their ‘scientific‘ graph the other week. And people wonder why some people are a bit sceptical not that we are following the science but whether we are actually following the right science.
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Every post you make reveals your ignorance.
Go back and look at what they actually said.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Good post mate. But if hugging or spending some quality time with close relatives who might be elderly or such like would be amongst the highest risk category and as you say one of the last to open due to their vulnerability, I just can't see people sticking at that for too much longer. Anything could happen between now and that point down the line, people will weigh up the regret of not coming into contact with each other and the risk of doing so and make their own choices.
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Fully agree - which is why I think an open public debate on this now would be helpful. Then we get to understand better how the ultimate policy was arrived at, so it gets more support - which will be essential.

There may be ways to help with the issue you raise - my suggestion would be compulsory testing for care home visits, govt funded, care homes being the very highest risk area. It wouldn't eliminate all risk, but it would help.

You could open up venues for U50s for a period, to maximise youth immunity and minimise elderly exposure.

Doubtless there are many more better ideas that all might add up to a viable (or at least not too awful) way forward. Like you say, unless there's a plan, people will take matters into their own hands, and that could deliver a terrible spike, far in excess of 1st wave.
 
GM total today is 1445 - down from yesterday's 1533 and by coincidence exactly the same total as two days ago! As todays NW total is the highest of those three days it means relative to the rest of the NW today was a slight improvement again.

At 36% of the NW total this is the lowest contribution from GM in quite some time.

So justifying perhaps the decision taken on which tier to enter.
 
Whilst I can fully sympathise with young people and students who still want to go out and enjoy themselves, nothing pisses me off more than these crusty old conspiracy theorists forever whining on about their fucking freedom. Probably most of them voted for brexit.

There was one sat on the bus the other day, straight from central casting. About 60, no mask, grey hair in a pony tail, denim jacket, No Fear rucksack and a fucking attitude. Pillock.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Good post mate. But if hugging or spending some quality time with close relatives who might be elderly or such like would be amongst the highest risk category and as you say one of the last to open due to their vulnerability, I just can't see people sticking at that for too much longer. Anything could happen between now and that point down the line, people will weigh up the regret of not coming into contact with each other and the risk of doing so and make their own choices.
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I think this is very underestimated and may well be how all this unravels.
If you accept life expectancy as a proxy then over 90% of people who’ve died with this disease are older than the life expectancy of someone born TODAY, never mind 80+ years ago. Many of those people, and plenty of younger ones as well, might not have a huge appetite for spending what might be their final months locked away.
 
GM highlights. Some up - some down - three places below 100 today. And neither Trafford nor Stockport one of them.

Indeed this was a pretty bad day for Stockport with its worst figures in some time. And the only time I recall that it had more cases than recent hot spots Blackburn, Bolton, Oldham and Salford.

It may be headed the same way Wigan has gone. Or it may prove a one off.

Manchester down again for third straight day.
 
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The Northern Baptist said:
Just read on MEN’s website that tier 2 allows meetings in private gardens to max of 6 ppl (possibly only from 2 households though) which I don’t believe we can do here now.

tier 3 allows pubs serving food to remain open.

Apologies o


I suppose that’s one way of persuading ppl to change their viewpoint. Deary me.
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i wasnt trying to , to be fair,
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
13972 new cases by date reported today then.
Just over 36000 less than the chuckle brothers had predicted we’d have by October 12th, with their ‘scientific‘ graph the other week. And people wonder why some people are a bit sceptical not that we are following the science but whether we are actually following the right science.
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As ALWAYS it was if we do NOT stick to the rules
 
shemnel said:
you're the second person to say that without clarifying what 'as we are' means - now? highly localised? or the multi tier thing? all dependent on case rates etc? so if by spring there is no outlook for a vaccine at all, we carry on like this?
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We carry on with local lockdowns, we have to all get on board that we have to avoid a national one by complying , boris has got the kids back to uni to get some herd immunity but i dont think that will help, it is spreading it more , until we get a vaccine it is targetted lockdowns
 
Imre_Banana said:
Whilst I can fully sympathise with young people and students who still want to go out and enjoy themselves, nothing pisses me off more than these crusty old conspiracy theorists forever whining on about their fucking freedom. Probably most of them voted for brexit.

There was one sat on the bus the other day, straight from central casting. About 60, no mask, grey hair in a pony tail, denim jacket, No Fear rucksack and a fucking attitude. Pillock.
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I agree that some of the people who said we should treat EU members just like any other country on earth wank over Sweden’s mediocre performance but can’t raise a positive word about New Zealand’s excellence.
 
My wife and I have followed all the guidelines whilst some of our neighbours have completely ignored them. Multiply this all over the country and no wonder the virus is spreading.

Personally I think the Government should give advice but if you don’t want to follow it then that is the risk you take. I will continue to avoid close contact with other people except of cause my wife and son who lives on his own.

Hopeful we will get a vaccine in the not too distant future.
 
Erm putting exams back a few weeks to catch up with months missed plus any other interruptions over winter. What could possibly go wrong.
 
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