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Nightmare Walking said:
Not sure this is the case everywhere mate but 2 women I know got bursaries. It covered all their uni fees and an amount towards living costs.
It may be different depending on other circumstances, but they definitely did not may towards their tuition (and rightly so)
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I think the bursaries were reintroduced and so the trainee nurses starting in September got £5k with some able to claim up to an additional £3k for childcare, low income etc
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
I’m just looking at the latest data. As always, we don’t know whether the current trend of positive tests decreasing will continue but there seems absolutely no case for Manchester going up to Tier 3 at the moment.

Manchester continues its decline in positive tests which started on 3rd Oct. Oldham, Salford, Stockport & Trafford also decreasing at 13 Oct (latest date when data reliable). GM as a whole still flat (actually down 0.5% on 13 Oct).

Every Tier 3 Mersey borough saw decrease in 7-day ave positive tests by specimen date on 13th Oct, latest date when data should be reliable. Merseyside have started decreasing (slowly) on 10 Oct, so relating to infections from perhaps 3 Oct, long before Tier 3 could have any effect. If I owned a gym or a pub on Merseyside I might be a tad disappointed.
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Dont you be coming up with positive news on here. The doom mongers wont like that
 
BigJoe#1 said:
Not directly related to Covid19 but....

Speaking to my neighbour today and he told me about his brother who died.

He went to hospital on Tuesday last week with a bleeding nose that he couldn't stop. He was admitted and on Friday he passed away.

His wife phoned the hospital on Saturday to be told.... and this is the gods honest...

Death certificate was issued, he was processed boxed up (his words) sent to the crematorium and cremated - his wife knew nothing about it until she phoned in the Saturday.

They live in an area that is not suffering massively with Covid at the moment..... unbelievable.

And no, we don't know what was put on the certificate!
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That can only have been down to a specific request of the patient. There's no way this would occur if not.
 
117 M34 said:
Seeing as you 2 are discussing the lakes on here, I'm going there next week (haven site in Flookburgh) - is there a decent pub with bt sports where I can watch the match? Preferably with something decent to do close by (for a 6 year old) so can go and do something afterwards
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I can ask, they have a steam gathering once a year but I don’t really know it, although I’ll be asking people that go to steam gatherings, I’d google tbh
 
The Mrs has done a test today and we are now having to self isolate until the results at least. She started with a high temperature the other night all of a sudden, took some paracetamol which brought it down and shes been pretty much fine since. Very tired yesterday but no other symptoms for either of us, so far.

Keeping our fingers crossed of course. Never been so gutted to get a few days off work!
 
BigJoe#1 said:
Not directly related to Covid19 but....

Speaking to my neighbour today and he told me about his brother who died.

He went to hospital on Tuesday last week with a bleeding nose that he couldn't stop. He was admitted and on Friday he passed away.

His wife phoned the hospital on Saturday to be told.... and this is the gods honest...

Death certificate was issued, he was processed boxed up (his words) sent to the crematorium and cremated - his wife knew nothing about it until she phoned in the Saturday.

They live in an area that is not suffering massively with Covid at the moment..... unbelievable.

And no, we don't know what was put on the certificate!
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The nhs dont cremate people
 
GM scoreboard today:

Total 1842 cases - highest since 1845 on 8 October.

Wigan also today overtook Manchester to become the second worst place in GM warch list numbers after being the best the day we entered lockdown in late July. It might have been top but someone else had an even worse day.

Wigan pre Tier 1 had one tenth of its daily cases now in an entire week and a Pop score less than a third of now. The restrictions - far from helping - have seen Wigan turn into a basket case and now officially one of the worst red zone towns in the UK. So did being out at first and then put into Tier One with the rest of GM help Wigan or send it spiralling out of control? Someone really ought to be studying this town before just assuming the Tiered restrictions work or do not work as both the above cannot be true in this town.


Manchester 403 - up from 340. 15,081 cases. 2456 in week. Pop score up 73 to enter the 2700 club at 2728. Weekly Pop 444

Wigan 212 - down from 229. 6730 cases. 1478 in week. Pop score up 65 to become the 8th GM borough to enter the 2000 club at 2048. Weekly Pop 450.

Rochdale 204 - up from 148 . Big rise here. 5784 cases. 1047 in week. Pop score up 92 (one of worst in UK today) to enter the 2600 club at 2601. Weekly Pop 471. Now worst number on watch list in GM.

Salford 197 - up from 167. Just avoided making it four over 200 today. 5755 cases. 1127 in week. Pop score up 76 to enter 2200 club at 2223. Weekly Pop 435.

Bolton 162 - down from 178. 7331 cases. 1145 in week. Pop score up 55 to enter 2500 club at 2549. Weekly Pop 398

Oldham 161 - down from 188. 6573 cases. 989 in week, Pop score up 68 to 2772 - highest in GM. Weekly Pop 417

Stockport 158 - up big from 118 to second worst in three weeks. 4849 cases. 881 in week. Pop score up 54 to enter 1600 club at 1653, Weekly Pop 301. Now GM has no boroughs below 300 for the frst time.

Bury 127 - up from 113. 4493 cases. 776 in week. Pop score up 67 to enter 2300 club at 2353. Weekly Pop 407.

Trafford 116 - down from 129. 4365 cases. 796 in week. Pop score up 49 sees it make up ground on Stockport for best Pop Score, though entering the 1800 club at 1839 and still being 186 behind. Weekly Pop 335.

Tameside 102 - big drop down from 151. 4907 cases. 825 in week. Pop score up 45 - lowest of the day - to be 2167 Weekly Pop 365.
 
Got save us from these fucking pillocks in charge

Plans are being made to set up coronavirus units within existing care homes, Sky News can reveal – something multiple providers have described as "reckless" and an attempt to keep the elderly out of hospitals.

news.sky.com

Coronavirus: Government warned over 'reckless' plan to set up COVID units in care homes

There are fears that people could be transferred to facilities that are not able to offer proper support.
news.sky.com news.sky.com
 
marcus said:
Dont you be coming up with positive news on here. The doom mongers wont like that
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Except that the data used there is a few days old and todays numbers are not. And they are clearly not going down.

Things might change with the redistribution. I know that. And I really hope they do show a continued fall.

But its a question of whether you trust more figures from earlier in the week after they get alloted to the right day of the test in a period when numbers were falling as I have been noting all week they were - or from the last 48 hours when they have been rising on the daily case numbers at least.

You should look at both. I do. But I would certainly not celebrate based only on 5 day old numbers until we see in 5 days what happens with todays cases after they are redistributed

No doom and gloom about this at all. Just common sense to wait and see.

Though I doubt politicians make decisions solely on what happened last Tuesday during a pandemic.

They will likely use whichever one suits their agenda the most.
 
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Blue Llama said:
Please quote your data source as there is little evidence in the stats I have seen to indicate that schoolkids and especially junior schools kids are the problem.
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Just some of the schools in Stockport that currently have classes/year groups in isolation due to positive cases:

  • St Winifred’s RC Primary, Heaton Mersey
  • Didsbury Road Primary School, Stockport - (Year 1)
  • Adswood Primary, Stockport - (Year 1, Year 2, one class from Y5/6)
  • Cheadle Hulme Primary School, Stockport - (Two classes from Year 2)
  • Cheadle Hulme School, Cheadle Hulme - (Cases confirmed in Years 8, 12 and 13)
  • Broadstone Hall Primary, Stockport - (One class from Year 3 and one class from Year 6)
  • Gatley Primary School, Stockport - (Reception)
  • St Anne's RC High, Stockport - (Year 11)
  • The Kingsway School, Stockport - (Confirmed cases)
  • Great Moor Junior School, Stockport - (Year 3)
  • Werneth School, Stockport - (Confirmed case in Year 7, bubble of 80 students isolating)
  • Marple Hall School, Stockport - (Year 8)
  • Cheadle Hulme High School, Stockport - (Two confirmed cases, plus confirmed case in sixth form)
  • Priestnall School, Stockport - (Year 8)
  • Stockport School, Stockport - (Confirmed case, 19 students isolating)
  • St James' Catholic High, Cheadle - (Years 8, 9, 10 and 11)
  • Ludworth Primary, Marple Bridge - (Case confirmed, Reception isolating along with some Year 1s, some Year 2s and a Year 4 class)
  • Bridge Hall Primary, Stockport - (Case confirmed)
  • Valley School, Stockport - (Staff member isolating)
  • Bolshaw Primary, Stockport - (Year 5/6)
  • Thorn Grove Primary, Cheadle Hulme - (One Year 5 class isolating)
  • Cale Green Primary School, Stockport - (Confirmed case)
  • Harrytown Catholic High School, Stockport - (Year 11)
  • Hazel Grove High School, Stockport - (Two cases confirmed, including one staff member. Some Year 8s isolating)
  • Vale View Primary, Stockport - (Reception, Year 1 and Year 5)
  • St Joseph's Catholic Primary, Stockport - (Case confirmed)
  • Rose Hill Primary, Marple - (Case confirmed)
  • Pownall Green Primary School, Stockport - (Confirmed case)
  • Bramhall High, Stockport - (Case confirmed)
  • Etchells Primary, Stockport - (School closed to all years)
  • Vernon Park Primary, Stockport - (Case confirmed)
  • Reddish Vale High, Stockport - (Case confirmed in Year 11, close contacts isolating)
  • Castle Hill High, Offerton, Stockport - (Case confirmed in Year 12)
 
johnnytapia said:
Just some of the schools in Stockport that currently have classes/year groups in isolation due to positive cases:

  • St Winifred’s RC Primary, Heaton Mersey
  • Didsbury Road Primary School, Stockport - (Year 1)
  • Adswood Primary, Stockport - (Year 1, Year 2, one class from Y5/6)
  • Cheadle Hulme Primary School, Stockport - (Two classes from Year 2)
  • Cheadle Hulme School, Cheadle Hulme - (Cases confirmed in Years 8, 12 and 13)
  • Broadstone Hall Primary, Stockport - (One class from Year 3 and one class from Year 6)
  • Gatley Primary School, Stockport - (Reception)
  • St Anne's RC High, Stockport - (Year 11)
  • The Kingsway School, Stockport - (Confirmed cases)
  • Great Moor Junior School, Stockport - (Year 3)
  • Werneth School, Stockport - (Confirmed case in Year 7, bubble of 80 students isolating)
  • Marple Hall School, Stockport - (Year 8)
  • Cheadle Hulme High School, Stockport - (Two confirmed cases, plus confirmed case in sixth form)
  • Priestnall School, Stockport - (Year 8)
  • Stockport School, Stockport - (Confirmed case, 19 students isolating)
  • St James' Catholic High, Cheadle - (Years 8, 9, 10 and 11)
  • Ludworth Primary, Marple Bridge - (Case confirmed, Reception isolating along with some Year 1s, some Year 2s and a Year 4 class)
  • Bridge Hall Primary, Stockport - (Case confirmed)
  • Valley School, Stockport - (Staff member isolating)
  • Bolshaw Primary, Stockport - (Year 5/6)
  • Thorn Grove Primary, Cheadle Hulme - (One Year 5 class isolating)
  • Cale Green Primary School, Stockport - (Confirmed case)
  • Harrytown Catholic High School, Stockport - (Year 11)
  • Hazel Grove High School, Stockport - (Two cases confirmed, including one staff member. Some Year 8s isolating)
  • Vale View Primary, Stockport - (Reception, Year 1 and Year 5)
  • St Joseph's Catholic Primary, Stockport - (Case confirmed)
  • Rose Hill Primary, Marple - (Case confirmed)
  • Pownall Green Primary School, Stockport - (Confirmed case)
  • Bramhall High, Stockport - (Case confirmed)
  • Etchells Primary, Stockport - (School closed to all years)
  • Vernon Park Primary, Stockport - (Case confirmed)
  • Reddish Vale High, Stockport - (Case confirmed in Year 11, close contacts isolating)
  • Castle Hill High, Offerton, Stockport - (Case confirmed in Year 12)
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I know the staff member from Hazel Grove High mentioned above. His wife is now positive and his 4 children.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
Every year for the last decade or more has seen us suffering national shortages, beds, staff etc... (not patients). When it comes about this year, as it will, Hancock and co. will be laying the blame squarely at the door if CV19... mark my words.

Just hope the journalists have the bottle to call him out on it!
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45,859 (91.1%) of deaths involving COVID-19 up to the end of June in England and Wales had at least one pre-existing health condition. We also know the average age of death since the pandemic began is 82.4: https://cebm.ox.ac.uk/news/cebm-in-the-news

People of any age can become ill with COVID, and there’s evidence that even mild sufferers can experience long-term symptoms and I don’t wish to downplay it. But this is clearly a disease that disproportionately affects the elderly and in particular those suffering very ill health.
Christian Duncan, director of Surgery at Alder Hey children’s hospital said this today.
“Liverpool is using 80% of its icu capacity, not 95% and it’s below par for this time of year”.
This graph also gives a small clue as to where we are at.

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artfuldodger said:
I know the staff member from Hazel Grove High mentioned above. His wife is now positive and his 4 children.
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At the school where I work, we had zero positive tests prior to September 7th (school reopened to pupils). We've since had 4 staff test positive. Two are still off work (one collapsed on her first day back), one returns tomorrow and the other returned a fortnight ago. As told to us by the LA, we have implemented everything possible to mitigate against this. But we cannot stop it. It is a fact. Pupils are getting this. And passing it on to adults - teachers, TAs, parents, grandparents.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
Not directly related to Covid19 but....

Speaking to my neighbour today and he told me about his brother who died.

He went to hospital on Tuesday last week with a bleeding nose that he couldn't stop. He was admitted and on Friday he passed away.

His wife phoned the hospital on Saturday to be told.... and this is the gods honest...

Death certificate was issued, he was processed boxed up (his words) sent to the crematorium and cremated - his wife knew nothing about it until she phoned in the Saturday.

They live in an area that is not suffering massively with Covid at the moment..... unbelievable.

And no, we don't know what was put on the certificate!
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Knew someone who had this problem’ never drank in his life turned out he had cirrhosis of the liver couldn’t stop the constant nose bleed he sadly died aged 27
 
johnnytapia said:
So, are we looking at a crisis in our GM hospitals, or, as some of this indicates, are we seeing what would normally happen this time of year:
www.theguardian.com

Covid: Greater Manchester running out of intensive care beds, leak reveals

NHS document shows no spare beds for patients in Salford, Stockport and Bolton
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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It actually says in there “82% of the total supply – were already being used for either those with Covid or people who were critically ill because of another illness“. If you swap Covid for Respiratory Virus, it’d just be a normal, if not a bit quieter than usual, October in a DGH ICU.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
It actually says in there “82% of the total supply – were already being used for either those with Covid or people who were critically ill because of another illness“. If you swap Covid for Respiratory Virus, it’d just be a normal, if not a bit quieter than usual, October in a DGH ICU.
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Yep, the headline seems to infer imminent Hades; but one or two other facts indicate otherwise.
 
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