COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Healdplace said:
GM scoreboard

Manchester 501 - up from 379. Highest in over 2 weeks. Total cases 16,421. Week 2734. Pop score up 90 to 2970 - Manchester will enter the 3000 club tomorrow after it took almost SIX MONTHS going from 0 to 1000 - then 3 weeks to get from 1000 to 2000 and now just 2 weeks to get from 2000 to 3000. Such is how fast this second wave has escalated here. Weekly Pop 494.

Wigan 315 - up from 270 and a bad number for this once best in GM town. Perhaps a poster child for how the 'restrictions' piecemeal in GM since July from which it was at first excluded because its numbers were low - often just 1 or 2 a day - simply exported the cases from locked down towns to unrestricted ones nearby? Which is not going to happen ever again obviously to those near lockdown areas. Total cases 7591. Week 1824. Pop score up 96 to enter the 2300 club at 2310. Weekly Pop 524.

Oldham 254 - up big from 182. To new record here if it matters. Total cases 7226. Week 1254 Pop score up record 108 in day to become first GM borough to enter the (every day more crowded) 3000 club at 3048. Weekly Pop 529. In big scrap with Wigan in GM Red Watch lIst. Even Manchester with 500 cases in their wake. But as you will see below they are trailing far behind others now too.

Rochdale 246 - up almost as much from 181. Another record. Total cases 6433. Week 1271. Pop score up even more than Oldham in the day- 110 - into the 2800 club at 2892. If it is this bad tomorrow could join Oldham and both keep Manchester company in the 3000 club then. Weekly Pop 571 - Rochdale now worst in GM on the UK watch list (in 5 days when the government data from last week catches up that is).

Salford 241 - DOWN (!) from 256. Total cases 6491. Week 1412. Pop score up 93 to enter 2500 club at 2508. Weekly Pop 546. Now worse than Manchester for what was just before GM went into restrictions in July the borough with the best Pop score in GM. Less than a third of what it has now.

Bolton 225 - up from 208. Total cases 8083. Week 1403. Pop score up 78 to enter the 2800 club at 2811. Weekly Pop 488.

Tameside 184 - up from 134. Total cases 5382. Week 968. Pop score up 81 to enter the 2300 club at 2376. Weekly Pop 427.

Bury 162 - up from 143. Total cases 4942. Week 901. Pop score up 85 to 2588. Weekly Pop 472.

Stockport 162 - DOWN from 171 (the two S's only ones to drop today) Total cases 5342. Week 964. Pop score up 57 to enter 1800 club at 1821 - lowest rise in GM today. Also now the ONLY town in GM that is not over 2000 in the pop scores - see below. Weekly Pop 329. Best in GM.

Trafford 152 - up from 138. Total cases 4791. Week 876. Still hanging onto lowest weekly total in GM but rising. And Bury closing in. Pop score up 64 to enter the 2000 club at 2019. Now 198 behind Stockport in the Pop Score table. Weekly Pop Score 370. Only other borough below 400 with Stockport. But both were in the 200s a week or two ago.
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it’s quite incredible how Wigan has gone from a handful of cases a week in Aug to almost 2000 in a week.
 
Other news from today before Ko :

Birmingham has clocked up 1009 cases in the last 48 hours. Most in UK over that time. Espect West Midlands Tier 3 calls to grow. Despite its case haul though its Pop score is less than Stockport as it is a hugely populated place and those thousand cases only increased it by 89.

Blackburn also added 369 over 48 hours - huge for there - taking its Pop score up a whopping 246 to 3218.

Bradford is the big story - three straight rises and 517 cases today. More than Manchester.

Liverpool just ahead of Manchester today too - 507 cases. And a Pop score rise of 101 up to 3235!

Knowsley though ahead again with 161 cases taking its Pop score up 111 to the highest in the UK at 3484.
 
Ric said:
Yeah, it's scary what effect this could have on a whole generation of kids.

My ten year old daughter, who was/is the most fun loving, happy go lucky little girl you could ever meet, has suddenly started suffering really severe panic attacks over the last few months. Horrible to see as a parent, but almost certainly a result of the pandemic. To make things worse, we've not really been able to get much support or help for her as yet.
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That's dreadful to hear. Panic attacks are not permanent. I had a small bout of them in my mid 20s. Not had one since (46 yrs old). There was an article in The Guardian a while ago about parenting during the pandemic. Some may find it useful:


Earlier today on Twitter, I recommended you go to Cornwall. In the light of this, I would have worded my recommendation more strongly.
 
kaz7 said:
Human challenge trials have started

You have to be 20-25 , white and in good health

You get a trial vaccine then you are given covid and see what happens

You get 4 grand for being a volunteer
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Just enough money to cover the funeral ;)

The thought of being injected with something that could harm would scare the shit out of me.
 
London so much more densely populated yet no tier three lockdown.

Wear your mask. Keep your distance.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
it’s quite incredible how Wigan has gone from a handful of cases a week in Aug to almost 2000 in a week.
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It is. I have mentioned it often as it is such an anomaly and I suspect the cause is vital to understanding the dynamics of these lockdowns and how well they work - or not. Genuinely surprised there has not been more attention paid to it as on the face of it it argues lockdowns do not work.

Though I rather think it shows local lockdowns do not if they leave a target un locked down place nearby and no way to stop people from the infected area from going there and shooting up its numbers.

Nicola Sturgeon obviously saw this by how she called out the Glasgow to Blackpool 'illumination' coach tours that were in reality being used by young people as a cheap way to go to the pubs and bars 200 miles away that they could not do at home.

If we see towns just outsde the NW locked down borders rising - Macclesfield, Buxton, etc in coming weeks then they might also show the Wigan effect.

It's why I think only a national lock down really works as there is no way for this to happen then as nobody has an attractive lure to export the virus into.

I recall cab drivers during August remarking how many people they were bringing in and out of Wigan from badly impacted places like Bolton at that time.

Its human nature to find a way round the restrictions if it is not going to involve much effort. After all there is no ban on leaving even a tier 3 area. Just a suggestion that you do not.
 
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BlueHammer85 said:
it’s upsetting no one has the energy now to appreciate the work all these doctors and nurses continue to do.
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What they did for us first wave has been forgotten , it is incredible stressful for intensive care staff and dealing with a virus that has killed hundreds of frontline staff, a lot nursed their own friends and workmates , all the while stressed that they might catch it and get ill and take it home , when we look at numbers we have to also think of the people caring for them
 
Tim of the Oak said:
This is what happens when we pay management consultants £7k per day!
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I've been working in IT for 25 years now and I've never seen an advert like that. Ever.

People who are able to "volunteer" with the skills they are asking for are seriously skilled people. Good ones who you'd want to do the job will have spent a LOT of time learning the job and will be in demand.

There's not many people around and the idea there's people with these skills who are furloughed - or even more incredibly, would do this for free - is laughable.

Even if you do find someone who can do the job, this is a job for someone who needs to oversee the work for years - not a volunteer who can do the odd day here and there.

It's either laughable, or a vision of the future.
 
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