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@Healdplace just another thanks again for posting the numbers. I think your analysis is much clearer than many others!

Do you fancy a job on TV explaining it all? :)
 
Tim of the Oak said:
Yes it’s tough for most Governments. The Tier System is damaging the economy and people’s social lives without having much impact on the economy. Falling between two stools isn’t really helping.
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They've been making horror sci fi movies like this for decades. Even Michael Crichton (Jurassic Park, WestWorld and ER) started off with one 50 years back based on his book The Andromeda Strain.

These stories usually had some hero saving the day in some way as people fell like flies. But in the real world people are flawed, daring do is less apparent than daring don't, boring stuff like political conflict, balancing the books and making viruses do what you want them to do always look less good on camera and not quite so easy to pull off in real life.

We have been conditioned to expect some local version of James Bond will arrive and save the day and presidents and prime ministers will all be wise, fearless figures who act fast and decisively to hell with the cost in order to save the world - as opposed to real life where human beings are not like that in all but rare instances and are really flawed, selfish and want to wait it out and wish it to go away because it is messing up their lives

Unfortunately nothing beyond sheer hard work, time, effort and good fortune can arrive to save the day outside of Hollywood.

The story of this pandemic would not have been great box office. But it is what we have and the human race will stand or fall together and eventually come out the other side more or less intact.

Then they will make movies about it by the dozen I expect after which we will all probably say - it was really NOTHING like that at all.

And your great grandchildren on your knee in the care home many moons from now will ask because they are studying it in history at school - what did you do during the great pandemic? Were you a Covid hero?

You should all just hope that with a straight face and a minimum of obfuscation you can say to them - yes - and not desperately try to forget what you really did because your life mattered more than saving the world.
 
Bazzmand Show said:
I think we are in a lot of trouble personally. If you look at the sheer numbers coming in now, the death toll is going to start going up and we've not even hit winter proper yet. The government has to get a handle on this before Christmas, otherwise it's going to be fucking disastorous. Same as the EU.
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I admire your pessimism.
 
Healdplace said:
They've been making horror sci fi movies like this for decades. Even Michael Crichton (Jurassic Park, WestWorld and ER) started off with one 50 years back based on his book The Andromeda Strain.

These stories usually had some hero saving the day in some way as people fell like flies. But in the real world people are flawed, daring do is less apparent than daring don't, boring stuff like political conflict, balancing the books and making viruses do what you want them to do always look less good on camera and not quite so easy to pull off in real life.

We have been conditioned to expect some local version of James Bond will arrive and save the day and presidents and prime ministers will all be wise, fearless figures who act fast and decisively to hell with the cost in order to save the world - as opposed to real life where human beings are not like that in all but rare instances and are really flawed, selfish and want to wait it out and wish it to go away because it is messing up their lives

Unfortunately nothing beyond sheer hard work, time, effort and good fortune can arrive to save the day outside of Hollywood.

The story of this pandemic would not have been great box office. But it is what we have and the human race will stand or fall together and eventually come out the other side more or less intact.

Then they will make movies about it by the dozen I expect after which we will all probably say - it was really NOTHING like that at all.

And your great grandchildren on your knee in the care home many moons from now will ask because they are studying it in history at school - what did you do during the great pandemic? Were you a Covid hero?

You should all just hope that with a straight face and a minimum of obfuscation you can say to them - yes - and not desperately try to forget what you really did because your life mattered more than saving the world.
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They could call the first film Contagion 2 because that seemed to have many similarities with the first wave of Covid 19. It would probably include a focus on a Trumpy character.

Contagion 3 would include bouncy castle parties and raves in the North West, as well as the multi-billions wasted on the test and trace App and substandard PPE. Hopefully, it would finish with a vaccine being rolled out with success.
 
Elbow beards said:
There was a time when 'right on' actors and musicians joint green peace or chained themselves to fences at military installations for 'ban the bomb' protests. Now they search the Web for alternative causes and make themselves look foolish.
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And none more so that the cretin Tom Cruise. More idiocy per vertical foot than anyone in Hollywood.
 
Contagion the movie about 9 years ago was very insightful.

As was in its own way that BBC documentary with the same name 2 years ago where they played out a whole pandemic scenario across the UK using mobile phones to track those catching it and using them to tell you if you were positive or not and watch who you then went on to infect!

Indeed by irony the first case (or what was thought to be the first case in this pandemic for a long time though it probably wasn't) actually took place in the same small town where they by chance set the whole thing to see how it spread out from there.

Loss of life was even worse in their scenario than we have now but it flagged up the big error we made by making it too.

Assuming that the pandemic would be a virulent flu as coronaviruses were assumed to get stopped before they reached here.

That assumption caught the world out big time.

And why on Earth did the team who planned that BBC ap not get the job to run track and trace as I bet theirs would have worked far faster and better having had actual real world experience all be it in fiction it was still created, set up and run with real people.
 
Starting to hear of a lot more people getting this now. Almost seems inevitable at some point with my wife being a teacher and kid at school.

Some Asian countries have done very well at keeping this at bay when compared with Europe. Very few cases in Thailand or Vietnam and even in South Korea which is pretty cosmopolitan. Hopefully governments will learn from this event and be better prepared for the next time.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Starting to hear of a lot more people getting this now. Almost seems inevitable at some point with my wife being a teacher and kid at school.

Some Asian countries have done very well at keeping this at bay when compared with Europe. Very few cases in Thailand or Vietnam and even in South Korea which is pretty cosmopolitan. Hopefully governments will learn from this event and be better prepared for the next time.
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Bottom line is, if people UNIVERSALLY wear face masks, wash their hands meticulously and keep a sensible distance - as they do in Asian countries - then we would not be seeing the rise in cases and deaths that we are seeing. It is relatively easy to keep this under control and does not require draconian measures or total lockdowns. Unfortunately however there are far too many wankers ignoring the rules and therefore killing people.
 
I read this thread every day, mainly to see what Healdplace post with regard to all the figures. Thank you Healdplace. I am a frontline worker who has followed all the restrictions religiously since the start of this pandemic. The mess we are in at the moment is not good. I believe we will still be in tier 3 at Christmas. If the government expect me not to see my family over Christmas they are seriously mistaken.
 
To cheer everyone up. One day we will be looking back on this from the other side - normally I'd hate this sort of thing happening on a commute to work but so, so many people would long for this sort of pick me up right now as we face a long winter.

 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Some Asian countries have done very well at keeping this at bay when compared with Europe. Very few cases in Thailand or Vietnam and even in South Korea which is pretty cosmopolitan. Hopefully governments will learn from this event and be better prepared for the next time.
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Sorry to say this, we will always have worse numbers than S.E. Asia for the simple reason we are culturally different. For example, I believe it is an offence to spit out chewing gum in Singapore....imagine that here!

Back around May a guy in S. Korea visited a couple of nightclubs and minimarkets on a night out. He was latter found to be covid+. Within something like 48 hours several thousand people who had been in those clubs and shops were traced and told to isolate - mostly via tracking of his mobile phone! Contrast that with the UK: a couple of weeks ago over lunch at work, several colleagues unexpectedly found the NHS Track and Trace app on their phone - it had automatically been sent to them during an update. They immediately turned it off!

We don't even have identity cards.
 
nixmith2 said:
Sorry to say this, we will always have worse numbers than S.E. Asia for the simple reason we are culturally different. For example, I believe it is an offence to spit out chewing gum in Singapore....imagine that here!

Back around May a guy in S. Korea visited a couple of nightclubs and minimarkets on a night out. He was latter found to be covid+. Within something like 48 hours several thousand people who had been in those clubs and shops were traced and told to isolate - mostly via tracking of his mobile phone! Contrast that with the UK: a couple of weeks ago over lunch at work, several colleagues unexpectedly found the NHS Track and Trace app on their phone - it had automatically been sent to them during an update. They immediately turned it off!

We don't even have identity cards.
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It’s a breach of my human rights they all moan. You don’t have any when you are six foot under but try explaining that to the selfish wankers I have to share oxygen with.
 
The bloke chin wearing his mask ffs... it's not eat out to help out that's ravaged the 3 streets, it's that the community hasn't given a f***

My wife went to Bradford last week before we went to T3. She said pubs had groups of 8-10 lads in them. No wonder the area is suffering.

www.bbc.co.uk

Coronavirus doctor's diary: 'We blame Eat Out To Help Out for our tragedy'

Covid's second wave has hit one part of south Bradford badly, and residents have an idea where the problem began.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
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