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I must say I'm surprised people thought it would be an absolute walkover, I thought Biden would win but not by a great deal.

Feels like a lot haven't learn from 2016
It's true.

The champagne socialists on here don't get it. They don't understand the working class.

I've been outright accused of desiring 'utopia'! No, I understand the mindset of what people want and what it's like to be continually denied what they ask for.

You will only win a certain section of society with a 'morality' argument. That is the real 'utopia'.

People have real lives affecting them and the establishment think they know what's best.

People, on here, might 'know' America as an idea; a construct.

But they don't 'know' people.
 
A travesty that the last 3 people on the POTUS ballot were Trump, Clinton and Biden.

I want The Rock to stand in 4 years.
Its fucking mental that a far more appropriate and motivational candidate could not have been found,how has it come to this?

The Rock will probably be dead in 4 years given the amount of juice in his system.
 
So it seems Biden is just ahead in Wisconsin which if he does win puts the overall picture at about 50/50?
Looks like Biden is sure of 255 votes so needs Pensylvania where he is presently trailing badly. North Carolina and Georgia are close but well into the 90% of votes counted and Trump leads in both. Michigan (16 votes) with 78% counted is currently in the Trump camp with a lead of 230k but is still a possibility for Biden
 
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I must say I'm surprised people thought it would be an absolute walkover, I thought Biden would win but not by a great deal.

Feels like a lot haven't learn from 2016

If democracy plays out, there's a very good chance Biden sweeps up everywhere except NC with the mail in ballots and it ends with about 306 which is what most people predicted.
 
Trump will ask for the votes to be annulled.

Tough one... if you have a ballot pack in Pennsylvania that says you need to post it on the day of the election (you’d have to vote before the polls closed last night) to now potentially face a situation where the President wants your vote annulled but you have followed the rules. It feels a bit like 1930s Germany, Italy or Spain. Trump is saying people are voting after the polls closed... that is 100 per cent untrue. The overwhelming majority of absentee votes were cast days ago.
 
Looks like Biden is sure of 255 votes so needs Pensylvania where he is presently trailing badly. North Carolina and Georgia are close but well into the 90% of votes counted and Trump leads in both.
But all the votes left in those 3 heavily lean Biden.... (I may have mentioned it before)
 
Looks like Biden is sure of 255 votes so needs Pensylvania where he is presently trailing badly. North Carolina and Georgia are close but well into the 90% of votes counted and Trump leads in both.

Look where the votes are counted though.

The reason the NYT and co are predicting Georgia to Biden is because it's in big democrat areas like Georgia where the vote count is lagging behind.
 
So it seems Biden is just ahead in Wisconsin which if he does win puts the overall picture at about 50/50?
Its a bit of a nightmare scenario where Biden probably needs those two to win. It will take days to get the final numbers and he might get them by small margins. The court cases will no doubt start before the counting is finished.
 
Goes for UK to. Surely there’s an upcoming politician out there that inspires a nation, someone who appeals to everyone. I’m guessing Americans are fed up with these old politicians that get recycled every few years. How many years have we seen Clinton and Biden hanging about the White House? A Biden victory won’t be the end of the divide for Americans, it will widen.

There's more chance of a converted politically inclined, popular celebrity pulling that off than an actual politician.

Let's stick Scarlett Moffatt on a PPE crash course at Cambridge and fix this country once and for all.
 
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