2020 US Elections

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mancity2012_eamo said:
Flip that @Bigga
Are you not lumping all of us that express a distaste for Trump as a Biden supporter.
It feels like it to me.
There is more than two points of view in here. There are various.

And nobody likes being called stupid.
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The people that label was aimed at know who they are.

I've had reasonable discussion with you and there's been no comments of 'fuck off, nobody gives a shit about Progressives' from yourself that I can recall.

I'm good with you until you're not with me.

I afford everyone that courtesy.
 
aguerrrroooooooooooo said:
I'll hand it to you and @SWP's back you've both been consistent. I tipped Biden for a narrow win beforehand but I honestly can't make my mind up now, my nerves are totally shot
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I'll not be celebrating any time yet. Not until all the votes are counted. I've merely been repeating the way votes tend to be counted in certain states as every podcast I've listened to for the last month said what would likely happen. Not everyone has done that or had the time to listen, so I've just been trying to pass that along.
 
SWP's back said:
I can certainly understand someone calling it hypocritical yes, but everyone's prone to hypocrisy at some point.

I think my issue with Bigga critiquing Biden rather Trump as the "true evil" is that Trump obviously (in my view) represents the greater danger to wage equality, worker rights, the environment, Covid etc than Biden and Bigga would be joining in IF his preferred nominee was opposing him. So, funnily enough, I find that somewhat hypocritical in and of itself. Bigga would raise my chagrin far less if he was a Trump supporter who supported Trump's policies and actions.

As I've said, Bigga is entitled to his view, no one will stop him telling us his view and that's fine and dandy by me.
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The issue with bigga is that he's a bernie supporter who would rather trump would win than Biden.

He would rather the right wing candidate beats the centrist because the centrist isn't left enough.

Which is a point of view so fucking stupid Bernie Sanders himself would be yelling at him to stop being a moron if he was here.

I mean the man has literally begged his supporters not to do that, but Bigga came up with a conspiracy theory as to why Bernie had to publicly support Biden but didn't mean it.
 
domalino said:
Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, Arizona.

I think we will end tonight/tomorrow morning 276-242 and then without chance of winning, trump & the supreme court won't be able to fuck up Pennsylvania, so that will go Biden on Friday.
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I think you're probably correct. This has been closer and therefore more "entertaining" purely because of the difference in how each state is allowed to count votes. The postal votes will take longer and will inevitably be in favour of Biden. Trump has urged people to get out so that's why he's scoring well initially in most of those states. But when the larger settlements and postal votes come into play, where more democrat votes come forwards, the gap will turn the other way. It's not overly complicated to predict this turn of events and that's why Biden declared earlier that he thought it was won (notwithstanding the fact he would never admit defeat that early!)
 
Bigga said:
I respect that, but 'lecturing' isn't something I do.

I'm just pointing out a few things for people to take onboard further down the line.
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And I’m not saying it’s not interesting.
Your latest posts to your own little bubble though, have come across every bit as selective and insulting to those that may be easily offended.

I’m just finding this whole unfolding of the various processes interesting and incredible in equal measures.

I hope the fallout from this process is safe for all in America.
 
Damocles said:
It does, but it didn't address the wider issue that I pointed out. Not so much about your history with Bigga but about how dissent from the mainstream opinion is attempting to be silenced (for lack of a better term) for rationale that are not applied to others.

If nothing else, you can see how people who talk about how Trump is bad all day calling for Bigga to stop saying Biden is bad because they've heard it, is hypocritical and selective? If absolutely nothing else, you can presumably acknowledge that there is a hypocrisy there.
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Fucking hell. It was a throwaway comment to someone who calls everyone who doesn’t agree with him clowns or idiots, and which I knew he would take no notice of anyway, other than provide an abusive response. No need to get all sanctimonious about it.
 
Anyone in the know regarding Nevada? I know it's on a knife edge, and counting has stopped for a while, but are the remaining votes likely to swing things further blue or is there potential they'll go to the GOP?
 
domalino said:
The issue with bigga is that he's a bernie supporter who would rather trump would win than Biden.

He would rather the right wing candidate beats the centrist because the centrist isn't left enough.

Which is a point of view so fucking stupid Bernie Sanders himself would be yelling at him to stop being a moron if he was here.
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It's the "if I cant have my way then I hope everyone suffers" viewpoint, which he combines with constantly insulting everyone else, that makes him so very charming and popular.
 
Coatigan said:
I meant of the votes counted so far, but yes touché.

Time will tell if the predicted trends are worth anything.
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I'm going to be a hypocrite now given my repeated warnings that bookies odds don't reflect likely outcomes, but Biden is now 1/5 and trump is 14/5.

Damocles would now be happy for me to state Biden is the bookies favourite. I've maintained he was my favourite (based on results as they came in and what was still to come) all day. He may still lose of course.
 
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