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2020 US Elections
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And again, just from my own media perspective, I do find it incredible that the main stream media in the States don't seem to want to report on the Hunter Biden situation, certainly with regards the guy who has put his dad in the same room this week?
Are you really surprised?
The Hunter Biden story started 10 years ago. Trump's been trying to push it for 3 years, and every time people look into it, the whole conspiracy theory falls apart.
The Senate Republicans looked into it and found nothing, the FBI looked into it and found nothing.
Giuliani admitted that he got the laptop shit from a proven Russian asset, and no paper except the NY Post would take it because there's nothing that stands up.
It just doesn't register even with most republican voters, it's a sorry attempt at another Hilary's Emails stunt. No one cares.
How do Fox media focus on a debunked $3.5m payment to Hunter Biden when Trump's got a Chinese bank account that got randomly gifted $15m and there's proof? How do they focus on Biden's son and speak of nepotism when Ivanka and Jared are running the country?
I would have thought someone with a journalistic background would understand why no one gives a shit.
FogBlueInSanFran
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Watergate is one of my hobbies -- I understand a lot of the history and have a small collection of memorabilia from the era and from the ATPM movie that I'd like to build on :).
Watergate is one of my hobbies -- I understand a lot of the history and have a small collection of memorabilia from the era and from the ATPM movie that I'd like to build on :).
Ironically a lot of Americas current problems stem from the Democrats allowing Nixon and his cronies off scott free and sweeping it all under the rug.
I mean Christ, there's even the same people involved with Trump and Nixon. Roger Stone, Roy Cohn, Charles Black were all thick as thieves with Nixon and with Manafort played a big role in rehabbing the Republicans image and damage limitation.
And of course Roger Ailes managed to get Fox News off the ground after years of trying post-Watergate because the Republicans suddenly realised the value of a propaganda network.
The Democrats let Ford sweep watergate under the rug. Clinton let them get away with iran-contra and Obama/Biden took the high road with Bush jr/Cheney and it all lead to Bill Barr and McConnell realising they can do whatever the fuck they want, and if you can appoint 200 judges like Kavanaugh who will invent law that makes no sense as long as it suits the party, then there's nothing anyone can do. All the stops and measures in the constitution are meaningless if they're not enforced - and the Democrats didn't enforce them for 50 years.
If Biden wins, they need to end that. And the younger dems, people like AOC and Omar obviously understand that so hopefully they get enough traction in the party to make it happen.
Trevor Morley's Tache
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I take it you've listened to the 'Bag Man' podcast?Watergate is one of my hobbies -- I understand a lot of the history and have a small collection of memorabilia from the era and from the ATPM movie that I'd like to build on :).
If not, why the hell not?
Uncle Wally One Ball
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Hate that term. It insinuates that the 'main stream' media are in some way complicit in selective reporting. They have rules, because they are institutions. There is legal privilege and there is journalistic prrivilige in the same way. They get corroboration for stories from multiple sources before they publish. They have to be satisfied that sources are credible and that the provenance of information stands scrutiny. That is what internet sources of infornation, or whatever the opposite of main stream is, do not have to do. And that is why they publish shite.Just my perception mate, his advisers are keeping Biden away from the spotlight as much as anybody possibly can running for president and in a pandemic.
And again, just from my own media perspective, I do find it incredible that the main stream media in the States don't seem to want to report on the Hunter Biden situation, certainly with regards the guy who has put his dad in the same room this week?
The Hunter Biden story is old, without credible sources and nobody can accurately establish the provenance of a screenshot of an email. They have reported on it, but these are the reasons why it has not been covered more. Its bollocks. This came up in the impeachment evidence.
FogBlueInSanFran
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There's a lot here to quibble with -- especially the "scot-free" part (40+ people went to jail for Watergate, and almost all the careers of those involved were ruined by it; Ford got wiped out by an unknown Democrat from Georgia) but the general theme here is "Dems should have gotten revenge". Instead, they tried to move the nation forward in as unified a way as possible. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, and I'd rather put the blame where it belongs -- on those willing to commit illegal and immoral acts to further their own aims, regardless of the party. When same-party denizens tolerate such behavior within their own walls for the party's gain at the nation's expense, I blame the party itself, not the opposition.Ironically a lot of Americas current problems stem from the Democrats allowing Nixon and his cronies off scott free and sweeping it all under the rug.
I mean Christ, there's even the same people involved with Trump and Nixon. Roger Stone, Roy Cohn, Charles Black were all thick as thieves with Nixon and with Manafort played a big role in rehabbing the Republicans image and damage limitation.
And of course Roger Ailes managed to get Fox News off the ground after years of trying post-Watergate because the Republicans suddenly realised the value of a propaganda network.
The Democrats let Ford sweep watergate under the rug. Clinton let them get away with iran-contra and Obama/Biden took the high road with Bush jr/Cheney and it all lead to Bill Barr and McConnell realising they can do whatever the fuck they want, and if you can appoint 200 judges like Kavanaugh who will invent law that makes no sense as long as it suits the party, then there's nothing anyone can do. All the stops and measures in the constitution are meaningless if they're not enforced - and the Democrats didn't enforce them for 50 years.
If Biden wins, they need to end that. And the younger dems, people like AOC and Omar obviously understand that so hopefully they get enough traction in the party to make it happen.
kaz7
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When does trump get even dirtier with an email equivelent story ?
tolmie's hairdoo
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Hate that term. It insinuates that the 'main stream' media are in some way complicit in selective reporting. They have rules, because they are institutions. There is legal privilege and there is journalistic prrivilige in the same way. They get corroboration for stories from multiple sources before they publish. They have to be satisfied that sources are credible and that the provenance of information stands scrutiny. That is what internet sources of infornation, or whatever the opposite of main stream is, do not have to do. And that is why they publish shite.
The Hunter Biden story is old, without credible sources and nobody can accurately establish the provenance of a screenshot of an email. They have reported on it, but these are the reasons why it has not been covered more. Its bollocks. This came up in the impeachment evidence.
As someone who works in MSM, I can tell you first hand that selective reporting happens all the time and is complicit.
Jesus, I see it every day with our own club!!
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