2020 US Elections

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buckshot said:
This is the president of the United State's spiritual advisor:
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I suspect like a lot of the US evangelists/religious leaders that she is making a packet from TV donations from the large number of gullible idiots that inhabit the so called greatest country on the planet. It is all about making a buck by whichever is the quickest and easiest way.
 
Gray said:
I suspect like a lot of the US evangelists/religious leaders that she is making a packet from TV donations from the large number of gullible idiots that inhabit the so called greatest country on the planet. It is all about making a buck by whichever is the quickest and easiest way.
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Otherwise known in the US as the “prosperity doctrine”. Many prominent purveyors of this “doctrine” love Trump.

Grifters tend to coalesce to increase their chances of being able to realise larger scale swindling.
 
With a lot of the uncounted votes being postal and with Biden being the main recipient of those vates then he might get one of the two South West States of Georgia and North Carolina and even Pennsylvania could go to the Democrats. Not beyond the possibility that Biden could end up with 321 votes!
 
Gray said:
With a lot of the uncounted votes being postal and with Biden being the main recipient of those vates then he might get one of the two South West States of Georgia and North Carolina and even Pennsylvania could go to the Democrats. Not beyond the possibility that Biden could end up with 321 votes!
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that really would be ideal, as Trumps corruption claims would be even more laughed at if the gap was bigger
 
FantasyIreland said:
Is this a case of Biden being the right man for the job? or more a case of Anyone But Trump?
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If he wins the election then it's because more people think he's the better choice out of the two for the job. More people thought Clinton was a better choice than Trump too but on the system in place he got in, and still might do again. Not sure why this is difficult to understand. Or is your question aimed at those on here rather than the American electorate?
 
Thinking about things earlier, seeing one group of pro-Trump supporters demanding counting be stopped in Michigan and another demanding it carry on in Arizona. I simply couldn't imagine either of the Bush's, Reagan or even the notoriously paranoid Nixon encouraging their supporters to carry on like this. It's little short of outright incitement in my opinion.

It also perfectly illustrates what I said yesterday about being able to subvert or override the supposed checks and balances that the Constitution is supposed to provide.

I do wonder how many of the Republican voters are Trump fans rather than true Republicans. If the GOP had someone similar to Biden (somewhat bland career politician) running against Biden it'd be interesting to see what the voting split in the various demographics would look like as I reckon the appeal of Trump may be a significant issue.

I was also reading something about how the various demographics prefer information. College-educated people tend to prefer objective arguments, with nuanced views, which is what you'd expect with them having been through college. Whereas the blue-collar, less-educated demographic like to here more extreme, zero-sum conflict arguments. These people have always existed but I suspect been in the margins.

Trump emboldened and unleashed this group and made them mainstream, in the same way that someone like Farage did for the little-Englander, or Corbyn did for the anti-semites in the Labour Party. The question is will the GOP carry on with Trumpism without Trump or will it repudiate it and go back to being a standard political party?
 
Gray said:
With a lot of the uncounted votes being postal and with Biden being the main recipient of those vates then he might get one of the two South West States of Georgia and North Carolina and even Pennsylvania could go to the Democrats. Not beyond the possibility that Biden could end up with 321 votes!
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Biden is probably going to win PA by about 200k votes as he's polling 3.5:1 at least, possibly closer to 4:1, there on the votes being counted.
 
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