Spurs (A) - Post-Match Thread

[SamBlue]

Draw them out. They are at home. If they don’t want to push up let’s take the point and nil nil and thank you very much.
We are so predictable.

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU DRAW THEM OUT. WHAT DOES IT EVEN MEAN??????

Sorry, I lost it, I apologise, but seriously? Throw some money, jewellery, villa keys in front of them...I mean how?

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

His right arm was moving towards the ball inviting a handball call even if it missed his bicep by a mm.

It looked handball to me. I’d have been disappointed had that stood against us.

We have got some huge problems.

Zero leadership. The way our heads went at 2-0 was shocking. No fight at all.

5 goals in 6 games in the league. That’s awful for a team of our quality. We look dominant but the keepers hardly have a decent save to make all night.

whatever we are doing in training isn’t working anymore so we either change how we play or we end up outside the top 4.

We have no chance of winning the league with this side. They lack bollocks.

 

[No1 was Colin bell]

Jeez there are some entitled people on this thread. Ok it ain’t great just now but there is still time. And let’s face it, it’s an odd season and one for us that is one of rebuilding. We have been a total fantasy team over the last few years. Formidables, quadruple and brilliant team to watch. Absolute dreamland. I remember when dunninho was our player of the season four on the trot as the rest were just abject. Can we just calm down a bit!

 

[CatMan]

We have forwards that have zero presence in the box yet we persist in endless intricate play to try to find them. FFS Pep, buy a target man and start putting crosses in and anything that comes back out hit it straight back at goal.

It's staggering that we have so much play and 80%+ of our passes are sideways or backwards. Possession counts for nothing as perfect displayed by Spurs today.

 

[nickamon]

How about two things. One, stop playing Mahrez, he is absolutely fucking useless. Two, if after the first half we are playing badly and losing, don’t wait for the opposition to make the first sub and then go two up, before you start to change things. Both are things everyone is crying out for, yet week in week out the same thing happens.

But that's the thing, we didn't play bad in the first half. Bottom line, it is difficult to beat a team that puts 10 men behind the ball. There isn't a way of play we can change to discourage this. Teams know they are inferior to us if they come out and play so they sit back. We are just missing that bit of special quality at the moment, I'm all for sitting Mahrez if we have someone better to come in, but his guile unfortunately is needed even though at this time he is not producing.

I agree on the subs though, not sure why he isn't using them!

 

[BolinCell]

If we did that and let goals in people would say why didn’t we refresh the defense when it was a bigger problem. We get chances but we don’t finish them. Don’t think we could get defense and a new forward line with all the lockdowns etc. plus a quality one would be pretty expensive. Idk it’s not as easy as fifa career and you buy people lol

we've never been able to defend but have always been good at putting the ball in the net. Southampton away last year was a perfect example, brilliant football played but no one put the ball in the net so we still lost despite being parked in there half for the whole of the game.

 

[give it to gordon]

Its hard to play against a back 9 or 11 week in week out.

The chances are spurs will only play like that 3 or 4 times a season, where as City play against teams like spurs every game. Its getting abit boring, City fans blaming the manager, the players etc but City know ever team is going to sit back and play counter attack. OK it's down to us to break that down, but it must get tiring game after game. I bet the City players really enjoy a game when it's more end to end.

Today's game first shot goal, our goal was it handball not 100% sure. Just before their second handball by the spurs player, brushed under the carpet, unlike our penalty against liverpool were everyone tried to get it ruled out. Again spurs handball brushed under the carpet I think Neville said a little about. Spurs than score a second

Yes it's down to City to work out how to break down a packed defence, if City change a play a more sitting back style like spurs I am not sure what so of game it would be with both teams sitting deep. It's not Peps way and as Redknapp just said spurs will take watching spurs play park the bus if it means winning silverware. Spurs fans will sacrifice good football for defensive football.

Perhaps it's just me but I cant get excited about this season, no fans, etc its lost its soul for me at the minute.

 

[bert38]

A lot of passing yes , quite a lot of it sideways,, Gareth Barry would fit right in

Barry would improve this team no end.

 

[stan bowles]

8 games, 10 goals scored, 11 conceded.

14th in the list of number of goals scored. The difference between the best attack (Chelsea) and us is 12 goals.
7th in the list of number of goals conceded. The difference between the best defence (Spurs) and us is only 2 goals.

Pretty obvious where the problem is.

Today the defence was the problem. Conceding that first goal allowed them to funnel everyone behind the ball, to defend for their lives and then pick us off when we turned the ball over.

 

[CC1]

He looked really sharp to be fair today and worked his bollocks off. If only I could say the same for the other 10.
If we’re playing badly the minimum I’d expect is 100% effort and didn’t see that today

And folk on here give him stick - they don’t understand he’s a totally different player than Kun, to whom he is always wrongly compared.

Jesus deserves better & certainly more respect from some of our so called “entitled” fans

 

[DATOIA]

Dinho or kev arent warriors ? Heard it all now

Fernandinho is the best warrior after Kompany - I have ever seen playing for this club.

But Kev, especially from the beginning of this season - seems to be moaning about everything, like vacation time and etc and that's not kind of attitude the leader should be having.. Because when you are Cancelo or young player like Torres or Foden for example and listen to Debruyne moaning about lack of free time and him looking for the reasons to justify every fail - then you don't have motivation to fight till the end..

Captain should fight till the end, be motivator, be leader that plays at 1000% and not walking on the pitch and with an expression on the face that it's not end of the world to loose the game and life is more important than football or something like that..

Look how Guardiola was / is disappointed every time he sees such kind of attitude. We know how workaholic he is and dedicates his life to football and club. And when some players don't have such kind of attitude and willingness - than it's difficult to win titles and be the best..

Jose did his job.. I don't know if you watched Amazon documentaries but as soon as he arrived there he said -> Guys, you should stop being nice and learn to fight..

City is better, more classier and better to watch in terms of esthetics but Spurs had better fighters today on the pitch and therefore they took 3 points.. This Spurs team reminded me Mancini`s one from 11/12..

 

[porkchopsaplenty]

Pathetic,meek display. As many have said Foden needs to play & deffo over Mahrez. We move the ball to slowly last few games.

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

He just ran the show against Germany midweek where they spanked them for 6.
Perhaps it's not the player but his roleb

Didn't see it, did he run the show or were Germany total shite on the night ? Conceding 6

 

[Gordyola]

I don't know where to begin. As soon as Spurs scored you knew it was game over and there is no worse indictment of a team than that. It implies we are gutless and leaderless and I'm sorry to say we are.

We are so easy to play against I would back ANY team in the league to get a result against us at the moment. It's hard to know where to start. Nobody stood out or came out of that game with any credit.

Ederson still let's soft goals in.

Walker still switches off at vital moments.

Cancelo is a square peg on a round hole.

Laporte like Walker switches off.

Dias has just got here so it's wait and see.

Rodri, just not good enough. Too slow, immobile and not tactically aware.

Kev, not firing on all cylinders and looks fucked at times.

Mahrez. Not good enough, has never fitted in here aside from one or two decent performances, too inconsistent.

Bernardo. See Mahrez. One good season out of four says it all. Totally ineffective.

Torres. Just got here, promising signs but young.

Jesus. A more skilful Dickov. Runs about a lot and has a decent goals per game ratio but just short of the level needed o be world class.

Aguero, great when fit but getting no younger, the same for Fern. Foden, plenty of potential but rarely plays. Sterling, hot and cold. All our forwards are too much the same aside from Aguero. Small, lightweight, too easily managed by most defences.

Pep. Keeps on repeating the same tactics when it's obvious they are not working. Points out our possession, chances and how little the opposition created, even when they score with almost every chance.Says we played good, smiles, thanks everybody and walk off.

I am as worried as I've been about our chances of making the top four or challenging for honours since Mark Hughes was here. We have gone backwards and I don't see any cavalry on the horizon.

100%

 

[argyle]

I don’t want Mahrez in the team either but your logic is a bit weird. Mahrez also played outstanding for Algeria, so if you are picking your team based off of the international break, why ignore Mahrez’s performances, yet draw attention to Phil’s?

But other than that, I agree, Foden should be starting.

True but Mahrez only ever plays well against shit opposition that gives him plenty of space to run.

Foden is a superior player to him.

 

[jamesha]

I think Pep needs to fundamentally re-think his tactical aprroach to the game. When the players are 100% on form it can be great but at 70/80% then teams can defend comfortably against us and wait for the inevitable chances on the break.

We are constantly trying to score when the opposition have all their team in the last third of the pitch - we should work on drawing teams out.

 

[Return of the Mac]

Another fucking shambolic performance, we have certainly been found out by all and sundry. Players getting games when they shouldn't be and it's all down to Pep. This contract extension might have been a bad move after all even though I was pleased midweek. The players certainly haven't responded to the news today

I don't think we've been found out, we are good enough to do what we did in previous seasons but now it's all slowed down and players not on their game. Teams can't defend against us when we are on it, we will to click again, we are making teams look like they have us sussed...they haven't, we will come good again, so many factors outside of the norm just now, keep the faith.

 

[nickamon]

Draw them out. They are at home. If they don’t want to push up let’s take the point and nil nil and thank you very much.
We are so predictable.

Draw them out, how? Let's take nil-nil, c'mon fella?! I'd rather be on the front foot and take the chance of losing than playing for nil-nil. If they want to adopt that inferior mentality and play like Stoke, let them, but we won't do that. Yeah we'll lose some, that's fine, but we'll win alot too.

 

[Tevez City]

60 Million Mahrez was in the pocket of 25 Million Reguilon.

The most frustrating players are whoever filling the wings.


You could know that even if the ref gave us additional 90 minutes, Pep couldn't help his team to find a way to create dangerous opportunities against Mourinho's team.

 

[bert38]

It looked handball to me. I’d have been disappointed had that stood against us.

We have got some huge problems.

Zero leadership. The way our heads went at 2-0 was shocking. No fight at all.

5 goals in 6 games in the league. That’s awful for a team of our quality. We look dominant but the keepers hardly have a decent save to make all night.

whatever we are doing in training isn’t working anymore so we either change how we play or we end up outside the top 4.

We have no chance of winning the league with this side. They lack bollocks.

one of the problems this season is we aren't having any time to do much training..