COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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mosssideblue said:
The opening gambit by the Government earlier in the year by being so reactive for me, has been the biggest mistake made so far. As you say, we are an Island and knew exactly what was coming our way, yet we seem to actively encourage it arriving.

Once it got hold in the country, blame can be apportioned both on the Government and the public.

Today, we are where we are and we need to help each other in what is the most difficult part of the year when people want to get together to not kick the pants out of the 5 day relaxation and lets try and get back to normality asap
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I heard they thought it would burn out before it reached us like a lot of other viruses, in spite of evidence to the contrary. That and Cummings herd immunity and viewing the old and vulnerable as expendable.
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
because I'm not going to be coerced by emotional pleading about a "nightmare" when I should be able, as should everyone, to make an educated choice on the vaccine they want that is safe and has a 9.5/10 chance of working as opposed to 6/10, the latter leaving you with 40% chance of being buggered anyway. That's hardly the end of the nightmare, it just singles you out as the likely victim when everyone who's had a good one reverts to normal behaviour and spreads the virus whilst you're unprotected.

Your "nightmare" emotional blackmailing is exactly why people will distrust vaccination and it being thrust on them, until Oxford is up to the same thresholds and unanimous positive feedback and approval then even the most optimistic person should be reserved about it.
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The likelihood is that it will not have a 40% chance of being buggered , but probably a somewhat higher chance of having some symptoms than the mRNA vaccines. We cannot know at the moment.

From a personal basis I am likely to be one of the earlier people offered a vaccine. I work in the NHS I am treating covid patients on a regular basis as well as other non covid patients. I am over 60.

If this vaccine is approved by the regulators and I get offered it I am rolling my sleeve up faster than a rat up a drain.
 
GM Scoreboard:


Total cases 853 out of NW total 1861. Lowest % in some weeks.



Manchester 181 – up from 161. Total cases 30, 482. Weekly 1278. Pop score up 33 to 5514 . Weekly Pop down 18 to 228.

Rochdale 146 – up from 108. Total cases 12, 346, Weekly 737. Pop score up 66 to 5551. Weekly Pop down 5 to 331.

Wigan 109 – down from 122. Total cases 16, 145. Weekly 885.. Pop score up 33 to 4912. Weekly Pop stays at 269.

Bolton 88 – down from 134 . Total cases 14, 764. Weekly 803. Pop score up 30 to 5134. Weekly Pop down 11 to 279.

Oldham 62- down from 133. Total cases 14, 497.. Weekly 770, Pop score up 26 to 6114 , Weekly Pop down 28 to 325.

Bury 58 – down from 86, Total cases 9495. Weekly 501. Pop score up 31 to 4972. Weekly Pop down 16 to 263.

Tameside 58 – down from 67. Total cases 10, 233. Weekly 455. Eight straight sub 100 scores now.. Pop score up 26 to 4518. Weekly Pop down 38 to 201.

Salford 57 – down from 73. .Total cases 13, 135. Weekly 502. Still doing remarkably well – clearly the student influx drove cases way up here. Pop score up 22 to 5075. Weekly Pop down 21 to 194. Huge fall as it was pushing 700 in the top 5 worst list in UK 3 weeks ago.

Stockport 56 – down from 101. Just 2 cases separating these 4 boroughs like the 'olden days' of Summer when this was the norm. Total cases 10, 313. Weekly 549. Pop score up 19 to 3515. Weekly Pop down 17 to 188. Now 3 boroughs with weekly Pop under 200. A number that would not usually be anywhere near having tier 3 status. GM had none under 200 a week ago and only 2 under 400 this time two weeks ago. Showing how GM has progressed in that fortnight.

Trafford 38 – down from 64. Total cases 8559. Weekly 336. Lowest in GM and falling daily. Lowest weekly numbers since early September. Pop score up 16 to 3606. Lowest in GM today. Cuts the gap to Stockport for best in GM over the pandemic by another 3 to just 91. It was over 200 a couple of weeks ago. Weekly Pop down 37 to 132. Lead over Stockport for best weekly pop score increases to 56. Will soon hold both records as clear best in GM who may well be really annoyed at being in Tier 3 with a score this low.
 
Cancer deaths UK 165000 a year
Covid deaths UK 57000
Flu deaths UK 11000 to 50000 a year
Suicide deaths in the UK 5700 a year
Road deaths in UK 1870 a year

So about 0.08% of the UK population (the vast majority being 75+ , mostly in care homes and most with at least one co-morbidity have sadly died.
The Country will be in financial ruin for a decade, damaging the hopes dreams and prospects of future generations.
The criminal failure to place a cordon sanitaire around the highly vulnerable will imo be the key conclusion of how this crisis has been mishandled.
 
Healdplace said:
GM Scoreboard:


Total cases 853 out of NW total 1861. Lowest % in some weeks.



Manchester 181 – up from 161. Total cases 30, 482. Weekly 1278. Pop score up 33 to 5514 . Weekly Pop down 18 to 228.

Rochdale 146 – up from 108. Total cases 12, 346, Weekly 737. Pop score up 66 to 5551. Weekly Pop down 5 to 331.

Wigan 109 – down from 122. Total cases 16, 145. Weekly 885.. Pop score up 33 to 4912. Weekly Pop stays at 269.

Bolton 88 – down from 134 . Total cases 14, 764. Weekly 803. Pop score up 30 to 5134. Weekly Pop down 11 to 279.

Oldham 62- down from 133. Total cases 14, 497.. Weekly 770, Pop score up 26 to 6114 , Weekly Pop down 28 to 325.

Bury 58 – down from 86, Total cases 9495. Weekly 501. Pop score up 31 to 4972. Weekly Pop down 16 to 263.

Tameside 58 – down from 67. Total cases 10, 233. Weekly 455. Eight straight sub 100 scores now.. Pop score up 26 to 4518. Weekly Pop down 38 to 201.

Salford 57 – down from 73. .Total cases 13, 135. Weekly 502. Still doing remarkably well – clearly the student influx drove cases way up here. Pop score up 22 to 5075. Weekly Pop down 21 to 194. Huge fall as it was pushing 700 in the top 5 worst list in UK 3 weeks ago.

Stockport 56 – down from 101. Just 2 cases separating these 4 boroughs like the 'olden days' of Summer when this was the norm. Total cases 10, 313. Weekly 549. Pop score up 19 to 3515. Weekly Pop down 17 to 188. Now 3 boroughs with weekly Pop under 200. A number that would not usually be anywhere near having tier 3 status. GM had none under 200 a week ago and only 2 under 400 this time two weeks ago. Showing how GM has progressed in that fortnight.

Trafford 38 – down from 64. Total cases 8559. Weekly 336. Lowest in GM and falling daily. Lowest weekly numbers since early September. Pop score up 16 to 3606. Lowest in GM today. Cuts the gap to Stockport for best in GM over the pandemic by another 3 to just 91. It was over 200 a couple of weeks ago. Weekly Pop down 37 to 132. Lead over Stockport for best weekly pop score increases to 56. Will soon hold both records as clear best in GM who may well be really annoyed at being in Tier 3 with a score this low.
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Great figures for Oldham...weekly pop score looks ace.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
I don't think that would be any cause for concern. The 62% is good enough.

Also, they've recently published separate data showing the immune response is actually better if anything in older subjects (that was a surprise).

What is the reason for concern?
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The study in the Lancet reported that the vaccine was better tolerated in older age groups.
 
blue b4 the moon said:
Great figures for Oldham...weekly pop score looks ace.
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It was indeed a great score for Oldham today. Three of the last 4 under 100. After two weeks ago today being at 308. GM has really got it together over the last couple of weeks.

Problem is that it can go the other way just as fast over coming month or so.
 
Btw I nearly forgot Cheshire East data for andyhinch.

86 cases today up from 83. Total cases 8706. Pop score up 22 to 2266.
 
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Wirral up from 27 to 36, Knowsley 27 - down from 35. Liverpool area all looks low today.

Birmingham as usual had most cases at 575 - up from 523. Its Pop score rose by 50 - one of the biggest today.

Nottingham has been sub 100 for 8 days now was 88 today.

Leicester 182 - down from 201. Leeds 238 - down from 255.

Bradford down 11 to 233 - but that too is under half from 2 or 3 weeks ago.

Finally the place in the UK with the highest Pop Score (only one higher than Oldham) - Blackburn.

It had 60 cases - down from 66 - enough to up its Pop Score by 41 to 6265.~

Oldham only rose by 26 today so its Pop Score gained 15 extra lead on Blackburn and is now 151 behind at 6114

The lowest Pop Score in the UK is the Orkney's which has had just 36 cases in the past 9 months (less than even Trafford - the lowest in GM - had in one day today) and has a Pop Score of just 161.7.

Second is comhairle nan eilean siar - which will give you fun trying to pronounce or google to find out where it is.

Clue - its council offices have the postcode HS 1.

I had no idea there even was an HS postcode!



There are only a handful left now with a score under 1000.
 
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Just booked in at Winnington Lodge for tea Thurs and Fri tried weds but computer said no
 
Fucking fed up today. Walked from ancoats to st Anne’s church today and town looked scruffy and sad! Not many people about and so shit to not see our city bustling. It is not the most beautiful city but lives through being alive with people. It’s going to be another 3/4 months at least. A year of our lives on hold and many many years to pay back. Fuck off covid.
 
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nellyonthewing said:
Cancer deaths UK 165000 a year
Covid deaths UK 57000
Flu deaths UK 11000 to 50000 a year
Suicide deaths in the UK 5700 a year
Road deaths in UK 1870 a year

So about 0.08% of the UK population (the vast majority being 75+ , mostly in care homes and most with at least one co-morbidity have sadly died.
The Country will be in financial ruin for a decade, damaging the hopes dreams and prospects of future generations.
The criminal failure to place a cordon sanitaire around the highly vulnerable will imo be the key conclusion of how this crisis has been mishandled.
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Its not the deaths.
It’s the availability of hospital beds and ICU units.
they are now being taken up by younger people.
 
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