COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[artfuldodger]

Purely anecdotal and one persons experience, but my sister travels from north of Glasgow to Huddersfield every 2 or 3 weeks to visit our mother who has terminal cancer. She has done this since early March. Every time, she is armed with paperwork to show it is an essential journey/caring for a vulnerable person. She has never been stopped or questioned. And she doubts she ever will be. She said there is too much work related traffic to possibly police.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Post Christmas lockdown similar to Scotlands I'd imagine.

Yep. Might as well start it then if they are going to do it. Presumably the extension of Furlough until end of April means there will be more of this in the coming months.

 

[Healdplace]

Wales update:

10 deaths (high for a Monday - it was 2 and 3 in previous weeks - though down on the 33 last Monday when it was a two day report as there was no data release over the weekend due to issues related with testing and a systems reboot).

Cases 2563 - up from 1228 last week and 2334 yesterday.

 

[nellyonthewing]

Just went to local shop in Flixton and yet again 2 middle aged women not a mask in view. Its a simple thing even if it was only 10% effective why not wear one. The shops continue to let them in and serve these selfish fools .We'll never get rid of this virus because it doesn't just kill stupid people.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

From the Guardian: map showing new variant spread across uk.

 

[artfuldodger]

From the Guardian: map showing new variant spread across uk.

Interesting. I thought I heard this morning that it was prevalent all over Wales, but that suggests the south.

 

[Healdplace]

Here are some numbers on how the new strain has spread in the NW:

Week starting 11 Nov 7% of cases detected here.

Week starting 25 Nov 12%

Week starting 9 Dec 17%

Horse - bolted - springs to mind.

Just a question of time without immediate strict lockdown before we are in big trouble again.

 

[abu13]

Boris to hold a news conference this afternoon. BBC News just now.

Well, we know it isnt going to be good news. Guessing tier 4 after Xmas country wide.

 

[Healdplace]

Very interestingly from those numbers - the one area I noted yesterday from the regional case numbers I post every evening that was seeing cases fall and wondered why - Yorkshire - has seen THIS change in the same numbers v same week as above for the NW:-

6% - 7% - 5% versus 7% - 12% - 17% in NW

We really need to stop this mutation and figure out how Yorkshire has.

 

[Healdplace]

Other areas - same weeks with % of the mutant strain in cases:

Scotland 3% v 5% v 14%

Wales 25% v 6% v 28% (the 6% likely effected by the lab issues there)

London has tracked over those weeks 21% v 35% v 62%

NW is indeed three or four weeks behind the London numbers.

We act immediately we can still mitigate. We do nothing we are screwed in January.

You do wonder if this data has been building up since mid November why the warnings were not acted on two weeks ago.

Some big questions need asking on this.

 

[Healdplace]

Northern Ireland data:

7 deaths (v 5 last week). 555 cases (v 419 last week)

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital data - Sunday reported data so always the lowest of the week remember.

Could have been worse.

190 (up from 179) 22 North West (down from 23).

Other regions: 48 Midlands, 44 South East, 30 NE & Yorkshire, 20 London

 

[Healdplace]

Other England hospital deaths data:

Ages 40 - 59 (11), 60 - 79 (63), Over 80 (116)

Most deaths by hospital trust 17 East Kent, 12 Barking, 12 Dartford, 10 North Midlands

Lancashire hospital trust 6 most in NW. GM always under reports today.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Just went to local shop in Flixton and yet again 2 middle aged women not a mask in view. Its a simple thing even if it was only 10% effective why not wear one. The shops continue to let them in and serve these selfish fools .We'll never get rid of this virus because it doesn't just kill stupid people.

Indeed. I popped into Tesco earlier. It was hammered. Full families trudging round and absolutely no social distancing at all going on. I turned around and left as it was chaos.

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths 3 wks v 2 wks v last wk v TODAY: Total / NW total / NW % of England total


183 / 19 NW / 10%

190 / 15 NW / 7%

179 / 23 NW / 14%

190 . 22 NW / 12% TODAY


Hard to make sense given the low reporting. Is this a rise in deaths or better weekend reporting in the NW. Could be a bit of both. There have been suggestions in both directions in past week or two.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Indeed. I popped into Tesco earlier. It was hammered. Full families trudging round and absolutely no social distancing at all going on. I turned around and left as it was chaos.

Get out early if you can fella, those sort of people don't get out of bed early...I'm driving back from 'hunter gathering' once a week by 8.30.

 

[Healdplace]

By the way the numbers have been rising in Leicester lately. Yesterday it had 146 cases

Bear in mind they are probably the only place that was under restrictions before the NW as they went in lockdown in late June after for still unexplained reasons they never peaked in April in the UKs first wave but stayed well below the levels elsewhere and as they were all falling into the Spring Leicester went up and up until the peak in June was higher than in many places in April.

Hence the restrictions then a month before they came to GM at a time everywhere else (even GM) was very low as was expected in the Summer months,

So in some ways what happens in Leicester now with this new strain might be a warning for what is to come in the NW.

And Leicester today reported a sharp uptake in patients and ICU numbers higher than the first wave according to the media.

Though given the very unusual way the first wave played out in Leicester that I have posted about here for months the media should be cautious about making direct comparisons

 

[Ban-jani]

Here are some numbers on how the new strain has spread in the NW:

Week starting 11 Nov 7% of cases detected here.

Week starting 25 Nov 12%

Week starting 9 Dec 17%

Horse - bolted - springs to mind.

Just a question of time without immediate strict lockdown before we are in big trouble again.

I know it’s like guessing the minds of a bunch of lunatics but do you think there’s any chance of our Christmas Day being canned too?

 

[Len Rum]

EU approve Pfizer vaccine saying no evidence it won't work against new strain.
Also USA rolling out Moderna vaccine now so millions more now getting the jab.
Two bits of good news on the global front.
With the anticipated approval of AZ vaccine later this month things could be looking up ( at least on the vaccine front) by the year end.

 

[Armaan]

Just went to local shop in Flixton and yet again 2 middle aged women not a mask in view. Its a simple thing even if it was only 10% effective why not wear one. The shops continue to let them in and serve these selfish fools .We'll never get rid of this virus because it doesn't just kill stupid people.