COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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[Ban-jani]

It looks bleak at the moment but in spring things will start to look much more improved.

Just got to be patient.

 

[kaz7]

Guess this is directed at all posters. If you've had Covid, what symptoms did you have? Me and my missus are feeling very run down at the moment. Feels cold-like, but a lot of pressure in our heads too. Bit sinus-ey. Knackered and weak. I know it can share a lot in common with just typical mild flu stuff, so im a bit uncertain now ahead of Christmas. Was planning to see my parents in their garden on xmas day but I'm worried ive got a very, very mild version!

Sore throat , breathless, hacking cough like no other i have ever had , passing blood and temperature

It is different for everyone though so get a test

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Tier systems doesnt work
Lockdown doesn't work
We are paying the price for being a month behind the pandemic.
Quote simply nothing they do now will avert disaster.
2021 will be another awful shit year and the blame lies with the government of this country.

Tier systems can work, they’ve shown they do in some instances.
Lockdowns definitely work, proven beyond doubt that the case rate plummeted due to lockdown.
A full lockdown like back in the Summer would avert this now.

However, lockdowns ruin the economy.

But lockdowns and tier systems would work even better if the the fucking wankers who don’t want to follow the rules, think it’s cool to not follow the rules, who think they’re above the law, above a virus, don’t care about others dying, don’t care how ill others get, and don’t care about the economy of the country (since the worse this virus is the longer we have the live within restrictions); followed the rules.

They are a minority, they’d be in single figures percentage-wise across the country, but the minority ruin it for the majority through their cuntish actions.

Those not wearing masks, not washing hands regularly, not sanitising hands, not social distancing, and the cunts who do the whole lot in supermarkets (not sanitising baskets/trolleys/hands, not wearing masks and not distancing all in one go), those packing out beaches in the Summer, Black Lives Matter protestors, anti-BLM protestors, anti-lockdown protestors, football fans celebrating trophy wins, those who have accommodated or visited other peoples’ homes when they shouldn’t have, those who have broken isolation rules because they can’t be arsed staying at home for two weeks, or those who haven’t isolated at all even knowing they should, those not getting a test when they have symptoms, bosses who won’t let their staff work from home, bosses who won’t let their staff isolate if they have no symptoms... and so on and so on.

Might only be a few million people out of our entire 67million, but from the rest of us, here’s your collective Christmas present from us all...



Merry fucking Christmas, hope your turkey isn’t cooked properly and gives you the shits!

 

[yeseye]

Guess this is directed at all posters. If you've had Covid, what symptoms did you have? Me and my missus are feeling very run down at the moment. Feels cold-like, but a lot of pressure in our heads too. Bit sinus-ey. Knackered and weak. I know it can share a lot in common with just typical mild flu stuff, so im a bit uncertain now ahead of Christmas. Was planning to see my parents in their garden on xmas day but I'm worried ive got a very, very mild version!

Go and get a test mate.

 

[kaz7]

Professor Neil Ferguson has said there have been "anecdotal reports" of "more explosive" outbreaks of the coronavirus in schools in the London and the south east in recent weeks.

These are the areas where the new strain of the coronavirus is most prevalent.

Earlier this month, education secretary Gavin Williamson ordered the Royal Borough of Greenwich in London to keep schools open after the council had urged them to shut.


The scientists appearing at the Science and Technology Committee are now “almost certain” that the new variant of the virus has a higher transmission rate. But they’re still not sure why.

Professor Peter Horby, chair of the NERVTAG advisory committee outlined three possibilities:

- It results in a higher viral load in infected people so they pass it on more easily. There is preliminary evidence of this.

- People become infectious more quickly after being exposed. If they don’t have symptoms they could unwittingly pass the virus on.

- People are infectious for longer, so there is a greater chance of coming into contact with other people, perhaps after they have stopped isolating.

But the end result is the same. It spreads faster.

This is going on now on news channels, very interesting

 

[shemnel]

You wouldn't specifically target the variant. I would. I haven't thought about how you would best do it but I certainly think some geographic strategy is worth considering.

Hmm, I'm not sure this is possible though a sensible idea. Can you mobilise a spatially dependent vaccination programme quickly enough based on the data Vs the speed of spread (which can be mitigated). I'd personally pour effort into blanket coverage of most at risk groups, mainly because of delivery challenges and difficulty predicting the movement of the virus

 

[Healdplace]

He’s always worth listening to.

It’s just a shame people cannot look past Iraq when reading from him.

He was on the BBC Newscast show a couple of weeks back and I thought then his approach to the vaccine was mature. This idea is certainly worth considering though it needs proper scientific input.

If I understood the scientist I heard talking about the delay in the Oxford vaccine correctly a week or so ago they implied they were doing extra tests about the dosage regime and results were such that one dose of that also conveyed a big advantage over none and tbh given the mess we have allowed ourselves to get into despite everyone knowing since the start of the pandemic that Jan/Feb 2021 would be the most dangerous period then all options to protect those most at risk of death from this in the next 3 months need to be explored.

Also seemed to imply that the success rate in the more recent trials was even higher than 62% but was not very specific. But seemed to think they accepted the delay because these extra trials into the dosage regime were proving worth the wait.

 

[give it to gordon]

Getting out of hand now. Manston is now full lorrys cant get in. It's a bloody mess couldnt organisation a piss up in a brewery.

Tensions rising as Manston airport site reaches freight holding capacity

Tensions are rising as freight drivers arrive at Manston in a bid to receive a lateral flow covid test but are being redirected to Operation Brock – a contraflow road layout on the M20 London…

theisleofthanetnews.com

Lorrys that were directed to manston cant get in and being sent back to the M20 unbelievable mess

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I think the new variant isn't that critical to vaccine strategy at the moment.

Once the regulators give the okay, what there is will be used completely. There is still the original strain around and protection will be gained against that.

Meanwhile the Oxford/Astra boffins will be trying to collect enough data about how the vaccine and new strain interact, and whether the new version needs a revised second vaccine. They will then have the testing data to work out how to use them (such as whether a second vaccine works against the original strains).

Some is better than none; use what there is and then work out whether the second one is needed.

 

[kaz7]

He’s always worth listening to.

It’s just a shame people cannot look past Iraq when reading from him.

The scientists have just discussed it and they say the vaccine has permission from the regulators based on two doses and they would have to get one passed seperately and throws it all up in air again, in other words they havent spent nearly a year working on vaccines to change it now , tony clearly doesnt have a scooby

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Hmm, I'm not sure this is possible though a sensible idea. Can you mobilise a spatially dependent vaccination programme quickly enough based on the data Vs the speed of spread (which can be mitigated). I'd personally pour effort into blanket coverage of most at risk groups, mainly because of delivery challenges and difficulty predicting the movement of the virus

I think that's the only workable approach. There is no information that the new strain is more lethal or how the vaccine works on it, so the urgent need is still to protect the vulnerable everywhere.

I don't see any other evidential course at the moment.

 

[Ban-jani]

The scientists have just discussed it and they say the vaccine has permission from the regulators based on two doses and they would have to get one passed seperately and throws it all up in air again, in other words they havent spent nearly a year working on vaccines to change it now , tony clearly doesnt have a scooby

Fair do’s.

I suppose all options are worth considering but the scientists will know what needs to be done.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

The scientists have just discussed it and they say the vaccine has permission from the regulators based on two doses and they would have to get one passed seperately and throws it all up in air again, in other words they havent spent nearly a year working on vaccines to change it now , tony clearly doesnt have a scooby

if it was designed and going to work with one job they'd have done it that way to start with. Let's keep doing it properly to re-affirm public confidence.

 

[Healdplace]

nd

She talks eminent sense, do it now, stop faffing around, that's been a major problem. When the government announced last week Surrey was going in Level 3 with the exception of Waverley that was bizarre and absurd, Waverley is now a week later heading right up the charts, about 160 when I last looked and probably not far off the 200 mark in reality. Enjoy your Christmas dinner in restaurants Waverley because you will be paying for it in human lives come the new year.

Edit, Waverley now 237, Tameside where I live is 125 but I'm happy to go in Level 4, the return of people from Tier 4 to the North for Christmas is a disaster, should have locked down as soon as the new variant and its effects were detected IE last week.

Sadly as of my update last night Tameside - the best in GM - was 130. It has been rising daily and was 87 a week ago.

Almost everywhere in GM is well up on where they were in the 5 day old data the government use which imo is not enough to base things on given this is a pandemic now facing a new variant that spreads like wildfire.

By the time they wake up there will be so many infected it will take many weeks of misery more to get under control.

Dither and delay in the current stage of this pandemic is unacceptable. They are obviously desperate not to go back on their word over Christmas, A hasty announcement made far too early given they presumably knew investigations into the new strain was ongoing. Though I get the need to try to give people Christmas as the likelihood is many would just do it anyway as the tiers do bot stop that very easily.

But they have to act swiftly now as not doing will just compound the previous mistakes.

I get the feeling they are finally seeing this and starting to accept lockdown over tiers is the way to go. I hope so based on comments on BBC Breakfast this morning by one minister who outright expressed the possibility tiers might NOT be enough. At last.

 

[johnnytapia]

Professor Neil Ferguson has said there have been "anecdotal reports" of "more explosive" outbreaks of the coronavirus in schools in the London and the south east in recent weeks.

These are the areas where the new strain of the coronavirus is most prevalent.

Earlier this month, education secretary Gavin Williamson ordered the Royal Borough of Greenwich in London to keep schools open after the council had urged them to shut.


The scientists appearing at the Science and Technology Committee are now “almost certain” that the new variant of the virus has a higher transmission rate. But they’re still not sure why.

Professor Peter Horby, chair of the NERVTAG advisory committee outlined three possibilities:

- It results in a higher viral load in infected people so they pass it on more easily. There is preliminary evidence of this.

- People become infectious more quickly after being exposed. If they don’t have symptoms they could unwittingly pass the virus on.

- People are infectious for longer, so there is a greater chance of coming into contact with other people, perhaps after they have stopped isolating.

But the end result is the same. It spreads faster.

This is going on now on news channels, very interesting

So, to summarise, they don’t know.

 

[Healdplace]

Scotland 47 deaths (all these numbers today are up on last week but some are down over past few days at least)

1190 cases at 5,0% tests.

1025 in hospital (- 20 from yesterday)

56 on ventilator icu beds (-4)

 

[grunge]

The scientists have just discussed it and they say the vaccine has permission from the regulators based on two doses and they would have to get one passed seperately and throws it all up in air again, in other words they havent spent nearly a year working on vaccines to change it now , tony clearly doesnt have a scooby

1 Dose gives some protection, 2 gives more. the question becomes is it better to have a few with solid protection or more with some protection.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

I thought my coughing and sore throat, bad as it is/was, would be the end of it.

I can't quite explain what happened to me when I went to bed last night, it was like some bizarre out-of-body-experience.

I was asleep for about an hour when I jumped awake with a horrible metallic taste in my mouth?

I couldn't believe it, soaked head-to-toe in ice-cold sweat, like I'd been for a cold shower in my T-shirt.

I'd no temperature, didn't feel hot, whatsoever, but spent the rest of the night with the shivers.

I'm in front of my desk today, never really have sick days, but there is little snap in my legs.

I consider myself pretty fit, but it just goes to show how it can grab a hold quickly even after four days in.

I'm even more fully appreciative now how easy it is to kill older people or those who have underlying health conditions.

My wife is still tired but my 13-year-old boy is pretty much back on form after nine days in for their own positive results.

We are all out of a 16-day isolation on New Year's Eve. There is hopefully some symbolism I want to take from that...

Stay safe my fellow Blue Mooners. I've made more friends on this board during the last ten months, than I have in ten years in my 'normal' day-to-day life.

They say you find out who your true friends are when the chips are down, I've since discovered all these people I've worked alongside down the years are only there if you can remain useful to them.

Have a wonderful Christmas, best you can, knowing I will see many of you for the first time in hopefully a brighter 2021.

x

 

[BlueHammer85]

Feeling pressurised by mrs family to go Xmas dinner in her parents house with her nan and grandad there and others.
Im calmly saying no but seems they just do not get it at all.