Coronavirus (2021) thread

[roubaixtuesday]

Those videos from Dr John Campbell have been brilliant so far and well ahead of the curve. He is an expert in public health and has a global following. I met him some years ago through my work. I would trust him 100 per cent. So far his information has been totally reliable (certainly moreso than what has been put by our government)

Well, if that video shows that ivermectin, as claimed, is "proven" to be effective, there will be science behind it.

I shall await that.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

I can fully understand why those considered high risk, and the elderly. will want the vaccination ASAP.

My own personal concern is the long term safety of the vaccines. And has been from day one

I suffer with Psoriasis which is an auto immune condition ,and have many allergies. Fuck knows how my body will react to the vaccination immediately, and long term. It is a real concern.

I lost a son to Cot death after his first injection.

I am so, so sorry to hear of your loss.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Well, if that video shows that ivermectin, as claimed, is "proven" to be effective, there will be science behind it.

I shall await that.

To be fair he always provides the science. His videos are really worth a watch and apolitical.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

schools

when schools first went back we were told each year would be in a bubble, each class would be in a bubble, which i guess on paper works. Every one must wear a face mask on trains, bus etc, sounds ok on paper.

Than stand outside the train station when the kids are getting off, i would say about 60 to 70 i saw every day. All different age groups, walking from the train station to school through the town. One long line of school kids taking up the whole width of the pavement, no metre gaps just a long line of about 50 metres, of kids.

Whats the point of schools having bubbles when the kids just walk down from the train station in one big mixed group of 60 or more at a time ? My simple brain cant understand how anyone thinks this is going to work. I dont know if the school were telling kids NOT to do that, if the school was it was just ignored. Within weeks Thanet went to being one of the worst places in the country for covid, now Thanet has improved and rates have dropped abit. Why ? Kids are of ! watch it jump again once we get the kids back.

I get the bus to work when the weather’s bad.

I started getting up an hour earlier in order to get to the station when it was quiet and to get a quieter bus because I got sick of the school kids packing the station out, none wearing masks, all different ages and even different schools, clearly not taking any notice of school/year bubbles, and also taking their masks off when seated on the bus.

A woman asked them to put their masks on and they started having a go at her. I piped up having a go at them and they all got up and went downstairs. But that just moved the problem downstairs and won’t have changed their attitude of thinking “it’s a hoax” like they said to the woman.

It’ll be a minority, as always, but just shows the attitude of the idiot adults in society doesn’t half rub off on kids.

 

[give it to gordon]

I get the bus to work when the weather’s bad.

I started getting up an hour earlier in order to get to the station when it was quiet and to get a quieter bus because I got sick of the school kids packing the station out, none wearing masks, all different ages and even different schools, clearly not taking any notice of school/year bubbles, and also taking their masks off when seated on the bus.

A woman asked them to put their masks on and they started having a go at her. I piped up having a go at them and they all got up and went downstairs. But that just moved the problem downstairs and won’t have changed their attitude of thinking “it’s a hoax” like they said to the woman.

sadly the nick name for the school buses is 'the covid bus' feel for the drivers

 

[ayrshire_blue]

2464 cases in Scotland today

299 are in people aged 65+, broken down further its 77 people aged 75-84 and 59 people aged 85+, with 163 falling into the 65-74 bracket.

151 are in children aged under 15, with 40 of those children aged under 5.

441 cases are in people aged 15-24

1731 are in the big age group in between representing 25-64 year olds.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Interesting stuff.

You really can ramp up the Vit D huge amounts to 100 ug (or 2000 NRV) if you are at major risk then 200 ug (or 4000 NRV) units a day on the first sign of any illness. Rare problems only start to appear at 300 ug (or 5000 NRV).
I really don't understand why newly ill people can't register with their GP and get a daily visit from a nurse to check their oxygenation levels like they do in Germany. This was introduced a few years back to reduce Sepsis in older folks the community. If they doled out monoclonal antibodies then they'd stop another 10% from getting hospital sick too.

 

[Gabriel]

If Jason Leitch in Scotland is correct, and the Christmas get together figures take 10 days to come through, then the next couple of days could be quite jarring. IF people then came to their senses, then that should show toward the end of this week. Big IF.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

To be fair he always provides the science

If that's the case, it will be no bother to provide the reference that shows, as claimed, ivermectin is "proven" to be effective.

I wait.

 

[Saddleworth2]

2464 cases in Scotland today

299 are in people aged 65+, broken down further its 77 people aged 75-84 and 59 people aged 85+, with 163 falling into the 65-74 bracket.

151 are in children aged under 15, with 40 of those children aged under 5.

441 cases are in people aged 15-24

1731 are in the big age group in between representing 25-64 year olds.

15.2% positive from 17328 tests. Not good :-(

 

[kaz7]

Another 54,990 people have tested positive for COVID-19 in the UK - the sixth day in a row that new cases have topped 50,000.

A further 454 people have died with coronavirus, government figures show.

It takes the total number of people who have died within 28 days of a positive coronavirus test in the UK to 75,024.

 

[FantasyIreland]

When do we start seeing the fallout/results of people doing what the fuck they want over the past week or so?

 

[roubaixtuesday]

When do we start seeing the fallout/results of people doing what the fuck they want over the past week or so?

Should be clearer over the next week or so. Schools being out acts in the opposite direction of course.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Should be clearer over the next week or so. Schools being out acts in the opposite direction of course.

Yeah,hopefully something of a leveller.

 

[shemnel]

Should be clearer over the next week or so. Schools being out acts in the opposite direction of course.

I would have thought the case data by this weds or Thurs (6th/7th) would probably be the best to encapsulate nearly all Christmas covid, some of the NYE and be minimally affected by any non school return omissions

 

[kaz7]

Should be clearer over the next week or so. Schools being out acts in the opposite direction of course.

I think a bit longer , maybe the week after but there is aboutto be an avalange whenever it comes

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital data VERY scary.

In 24 hours:

Patients UP 1023 to 23, 557. That is up 5207 in past 7 days.

Ventilators UP 77 to 2017, That is up 519 - A THIRD - in just 7 days.

Big trouble ahead here.

 

[117 M34]

When Johnson did his speech today and said schools are safe, did any of the journalists ask him why schools in London are closed?

 

[Healdplace]

Will post more after the game - but

ENGLAND HOSPITAL REGIONS - better news for the North West to cheer everyone up.


REGIONS /// PATIENTS /// VENTILATORS

LONDON P UP 350 to 5861. V UP 56 to 713

MIDLANDS P UP 151 to 3959 V UP 12 to 324

NE/YORKS P UP 92 to 2624 V DOWN 2 to 177



But NORTH WEST - PATIENTS DOWN130 to 2410 and VENTILATORS DOWN 12 to 183.

 

[Summerbuzz]

Pretty sure this next month, what led us here, is what they will be teaching the next generation about in history.

Put it another way, didn't watch any of the first half.

Something's transcend governments, parties, the decades. Our lifespans. There are many reasons for things. Sometimes the arguments are like stacks of cards. Each underpinned by something deeper, harder to avoid underneath.

The cards;

The individual's right to life.

and

Society's ability to protect it's citizens.

are right at the bottom. Right down there. Nothing we talk about comes close. Like the talk before the game. The window dressing of the house rather than the foundations you build on. New curtains! OMG!

If you think there's historically or philosophically any other reason given for the existence of goverment, society, infrastructure - anything you can see - I'm probably now going with that being understandable, as the odd generation in the past has made the same mistake, and lost perspective to a degree that baffles and worries people for decades.

We actually did this review once, last century? Were they wrong? Or did we just get waylaid? Allow ourselves to believe the lessons didn't apply to us, that the truths at the bottom had changed?

'Beware the card sharps!'

Even the flipping medieval townsfolk knew that much!