Coronavirus (2021) thread

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cyberblue said:
Between them, Boris & co have made a pigs ear of it from day 1 & we have not learned lessons from other countries
While other countries were shutting borders or at least making people self isolate.We carried on without a care in the world. While countries around the world cancelled sporting events we carried on regardless.Our
track & trace system was an expensive disastor. We paid fortunes for PPE which wasnt fit for purpose
We promised to place a(ring of steel) around Old Peoples Home) that was a false promise
Rules seemed to change on a whim .Ministers made statements then were contradicted hours latler
Nightingale Hospitals were hailed a great sucsess but were hardly used .Told not to wear maks then told to wear them .Go to school, dont go to school
Eat out dont eat out
Boris was going to save Christmas then he didnt
I could go on & on but it just gets more depressing
NewZealand & Australia to name a couple of countries went in hard & early and are reaping the benifits
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but sadly we just dont seem to have learnt a thing over last 9-12 months
Fingers crossed we can get the vaccine rold out at quickly as the government are telling us
My thoughts & sympathy lies with everyone who has been effected by this living nightmare .Lets hope our leaders get us out of this mess sooner rather than later
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Begs the question, why are you coming home on Friday if you feel safer in Cyprus.
You will be lucky to get a return flight from the uk for the next couple of months
 


If this is accurate, and then when added to all the other infections that have happened, plus the ones that are about to, then surely it should have an impact on that much debated herd immunity threshold? That's a *huge* amount of people. It has to have an impact, surely?
 
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If this is accurate, and then when added to all the other infections that have happened, plus the ones that are about to, then surely it should have an impact on that much debated herd immunity threshold? That's a *huge* amount of people. It has to have an impact, surely?
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i think i was discussing with someone on here and 15 to 20m positive in the UK is a pretty good estimate now (ca. 20%).
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
What did people make of the roads today? I was walking the dog this evening at 5pm and it was pretty busy on the main road off the Motorway. I thought roads would be fairly quiet like March/April.
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Was quiet 9.15-10.00 around Chadderton/Royton when I was driving to the shops but hardly anyone gets up that early anyway around here hence, I was out shopping.
 
shemnel said:
i think i was discussing with someone on here and 15 to 20m positive in the UK is a pretty good estimate now (ca. 20%).
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That has to have an impact at some point. On the flipside if you've got a mortality rate between 0.3-0.5% then you're looking at another 5-10k deaths from just this current estimate of how many have it alone, which is incredibly grim.
 
That is so sad about Colin Bell. I was lucky enough to see him play and he was such a graceful player and a nice guy too. Lost my old boss this week too. Found that out on the BBC news . Now this. Sad start to the year.

Am sure that Manchester will do Colin proud tomorrow. But sad that Covid will stop the perfect opportunity for both sides of the city to come together to say thank you and cheer his name tomorrow.

Another thing to blame this dreadful disease for preventing.
 
I went in today at 6am and roads were as busy as last week. I can probably do about half my work from home (a bit difficult setting up experiments remotely), so will continue going in in the morning and home in the afternoon when meetings generally take place with our US based colleagues.
 
twosips said:


If this is accurate, and then when added to all the other infections that have happened, plus the ones that are about to, then surely it should have an impact on that much debated herd immunity threshold? That's a *huge* amount of people. It has to have an impact, surely?
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London must be not far off surely, they've had 2 huge spikes now. Sure it was mentioned around 20% had antibodies after the first wave.
 
Unfortunately the NW hospital data not good again. Starting to look like this region will become the next London. But am guessing Merseyside based on cases is in the most trouble, alongside East Lancashire where most of the recent hospital deaths seem to be happening.

Hope lockdown has not come too late to stem the tide or we will be in trouble.

Though I have a feeling GM will come to be very thankful for being in restrictions for so long. I suspect it will have built a buffer Merseyside does not have.

Regardless of any truth of this herd immunity push.

I have a sneaky feeling Boris has been pursuing this without saying it as the delays in decision making seem utterly crazy otherwise. He knows he cannot promote it. But the levels of infection caused by this new variant plus the impact of the vaccines creating another form of the same herd immunity might just push the country into a better position ahead of other nations that have stopped the virus spreading quite so much.

Its a gamble if he did take it for several reasons. But in a very compact densely populated land like ours might have been hard to stop with a highly infectious disease anyway.

Perhaps he hopes it will pay off without it being obvious what his 'plan' was (as that would be unwise given the deaths it inevitably entails).

If he emerges into the Summer ahead of the rest of the world able to try to recover an economy he might end up being the luckiest PM in history.

It can very easily go the other way, of course.
 
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The thing I'd like to see set out is a timeline for what gets relaxed, not for dates as they are fluid but for vaccination milestones.

How many of the at risk groups or population in total have to be vaccinated for:

Schools Open
Shops Open
Indoor Household Mixing
Hospitality Open
Curfews over
End of Social Distancing
Mass Events at full capacity

It's clearly not all happening at once but if the 13.5 million figure only gets schools open. then we are waiting further months and months for millions more to be vaccinated before we get a social life back it will be beyond grim.

Starmer should be hammering that home, but Jeremy Hunt or Tony Blair seem more likely to ask the tough questions.
 
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