Coronavirus (2021) thread

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cleavers said:
My mum phoned her doctor this morning, and was given an appointment for Thursday, so get her to phone, she'll surely get one as she's 10 years older than my mum.
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My mother in law 81 and not in great health got her letter on Saturday. I went on line for her to book her in. We live in Macclesfield. Option 1 was Widnes, Option 2 was Birmingham!! Luckily I am retired so Off to Widnes we go on Wednesday. Bit of a Fred Carnos but at least she is now getting the vaccine.
 
cleavers said:
My mum phoned her doctor this morning, and was given an appointment for Thursday, so get her to phone, she'll surely get one as she's 10 years older than my mum.
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I cannot do it for her sadly. I did speak to her brother who lives on the Lancashire coast to say why this matters. But he is five years younger than her and already had his. Hopefully she did what she promised me yesterday and asked her doctor what I told her to ask - Are there really two million people in the UK more vulnerable than I am given the warnings you keep giving me doctor? Or is it that you are just writing me off as not worth protecting? My friend who is journalist told me to ask.

See if she does that today. I have my doubts she will.

Since she lost her husband a few years back her life priorities changed a lot. Though at 85 before she got really sick she flew to Australia to stay with her family there.
 
M18CTID said:
The deal is that these are extraordinary times which call for certain rules that while they may look draconian on the face of it, are absolutely necessary in a situation like this. That's the same for this country and every other country in the world that is trying to fight this pandemic. If anything, we're proving to be less of police state than pretty much any other country with the exception of North Korea. Go to the Isle Of Man and you don't just get fined for breaking quarantine rules - they throw you in prison. Anti-lockdown protestors in Germany aren't getting the softly softly approach from the police like they are over here - they're getting water-cannoned into the next fucking postcode. You can't leave your house in Greece unless you have a valid reason and even then you have to text a government number first. Brisbane and the surrounding area has just gone into full lockdown with nobody allowed in or out because of ONE positive case.
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A poster on here seemed to say that on Zakynthos things run well because the residents obey the rules ref masks and distance. Greeks don't do rules very well but they seem to have more commonsense than many here.
 
Nicola Sturgeon just said in Scotland they are meeting to consider reducing click and collect retail to essential items only and stricter restrictions onto takeaway food to limit further the ability of people to meet.
 
Scottish Doctor says they will have 1200 vaccination centres later this week including over 750 at GP health centres.

Nicola Sturgeon adds that Scotland will have 900,000 doses by end of January.

Will complete all over 80s and all care homes and NHS and care staff in next 4 weeks.

All over 70s by mid February.

Will complete the entire priority list by early May.

But they are hoping to speed up vaccine delivery enough to bring forward that May date.
 
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Healdplace said:
Nicola Sturgeon just said in Scotland they are meeting to consider reducing click and collect retail to essential items only and stricter restrictions onto takeaway food to limit further the ability of people to meet.
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Bloody good idea , limit shopping to 1 person , let people shop once a week
 
I know there are those who like to abuse Nicola Sturgeon in here but I never miss these briefings because they are direct and informative and not full of waffle.

I find the English ones go round the mulberry bush a dozen times, make you dizzy and often no wiser than when they started.

Instead of endless graphs usually with days old data Nicola reads out the data from last 24 hours in the same way every day and right up front. The contrast is remarkable.

And if I am tuning in from England every day to watch her that should have long since told Downing Street that maybe their brand of ad hoc as we feel like it press conferences might not be the best way to go.

Scotland runs the pandemic briefings to clockwork and hardly ever without the leader there and England now and then when they want to lecture or crow about some good news and you never know when or if there will be one until the last minute.

Why they cannot see how one conveys the impression of a government taking these matters very seriously and the other one who is basically doing things on the hoof is bizarre,

You want your nation to recognise the gravity of the situation you build that impression from the front - not as if it is a party political broadcast that you may watch or not bother as it is unlikely to be up to much and called now and then as and when they feel like giving a lecture or some self congratulation.

Every day sends the message this is serious. Now and then breeds complacency as if it was that bad they would be appearing every day to explain where we are.

It is psychology 101 which of these two we need to instil into the population now more than ever.
 
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Healdplace said:
Nicola Sturgeon just said in Scotland they are meeting to consider reducing click and collect retail to essential items only and stricter restrictions onto takeaway food to limit further the ability of people to meet.
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Weee Jimmy Krankie really does have Napoleon complex. She absolutely loves what power she has.

Click and collect isn't responsible for transmissions, dickheads mixing households is.
 
Nightmare Walking said:
How do you police that though? It's impossible.
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Maybe shop on days starting with last name maybe? Have police driving about

it’s driving me mad seeing these supposed vulnerable group out and about , then the healthy age group been totally restricted

im ok to goto work but can’t goto the gym
 
Wales data: Looking a little brighter

17 deaths (was 25 last Monday)

1793 cases (was 1898 last Monday)

Weekly Pop rate for Wales 415

This is a new thing they are adding along with vaccine data here.

The Weekly Pop is exactly the same as the numbers I post every evening for each GM borough and other watch areas. But for Wales as a nation.

Basically this is cases per 100,000 population - as a rolling daily number. Going up is bad. Going down mean cases are falling week to week. So it is the best way to judge progress as opposed to raw cases that can go up and down daily but tell you less about the trend like the Weekly Pop number does.

This is a key measure the government use to make decisions like the tiers on areas so it is good to see one nation making this easily visible.
 
Nightmare Walking said:
How do you police that though? It's impossible.
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To be fair, you just have their security guard saying 'one in please'. Sainsburys near me did that near the start of the pandemic. Most won't challenge it. A couple will, and if so, let em in (got kids etc) to save the hassle, but it'd still cut down the vast majority of it.
 
come-on-barney said:
Wales now targeting March 20th for all over 50’s to have had the vaccination, and everyone else who is at risk. If that comes off that is pretty good going.
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The over 80s group is wrapped up with the front line health and social care workers and is a big chunk of the at-risk population. Perhaps when we get through this group it will be quicker to work through the other groups as they are smaller and we'll also have a better distribution network by then.

My household is strange in that the one who is on 15 hours of oxygen per day has to wait because she is 79, and her carer who is my Dad and in his 80s has had his vaccine.
 
Knowsley and Halton based on weekly Pop scores now in the top 10 red watch of worst infected areas of the UK.
First time the NW has been involved outside the governments top 50 or so in a month or two. Wirral and Liverpool are heading there too.

As I have been noting Merseyside has been tipping the NW into the worst infected place in the pandemic since Christmas. And being given freedoms during that build up others were not was yet another rookie mistake the government made that is costing Merseyside, Cheshire and (to a lesser degree so far because they WERE in higher tiers) GM and East Lancashire.

If they still exit the UK into tiers after this clear proof of their failure it will be shocking, But it is what we are still being told will happen post lockdown
 
How to deal with rules not being followed? More rules. Absolute nonsense.

no trust = lower compliance

it’s like basic parenting

keep telling the public they are too thick to act responsibly and they will stop listening
 
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