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Healdplace said:
THIS might be very good news. But for now is just tentative and needs bearing out in coming days.

England 489 hospital deaths by age:

20 - 39 (4) 0.8%

40 - 59 (31) 6.4%

60 - 79 (205) (42%}

80 + (249) (50.9%)

This is the closest I recall the top two age brackets being together in numbers

Is this the first hint that the deaths in over 80s are falling now many have been vaccinated?
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roubaixtuesday said:
Wonder what the trend is over the last three weeks
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Is that a weekly comparative decline in hospital deaths in the 60-79 and 80+?

As you say we should be looking for a fall in deaths in the over 80s but why is there a fall in the 60-79 age group? It sounds like there is another process because how would you explain the fall in deaths in the 60-79 age group?
 
Northern Ireland data:

This is actually somewhat positive today in some measures (not others) - with Monday from Sunday data warning.

Deaths 16 (was 12 last week)

Cases 759 (was 1801 last week). This is the lowest 'normal' day number in some time and last four days have been 1500 - 1442 - 1112 - 759 - which is looking like a trend.

The positivity rate is lower too at 28.1% - which believe me is low for here recently!

However the Care Home situation IS concerning. Risen since Friday from 137 to 150.

Now nearly double the number with two or more cases (which is what counts as an outbreak) from just before Christmas.

Hospital data too is escalating:

Patients 736. - up from 641 on Friday. Week before Christmas it was 489.

Ventilators 37 - up from 36 Friday. Week berfore Christmas it was 24.
 
kaz7 said:
This is what needs to happen everywhere , in every shop, the supermarkets have security , they need to use them , anyone can wear a mask for 15 mins

Face masks are now compulsory in London's Borough Market - which has become the first outdoor space in the UK to legally enforce the rule.

From today, customers and vendors at the food and drink market will face a £50 fine if they do not wear a face covering in and around the stalls

news.sky.com

COVID news live - latest updates: WHO warns over global vaccine rollout - as debate starts as to who gets jab next in UK

Latest updates as: UK records 599 new COVID deaths and currently has the highest daily death rate per capita in the world.
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I'm happy to wear a mask in a supermarket but not walking to the supermarket or outdoors, it's a step too far and is of no use. I had to do this in Tenerife in the summer, they introduced it overnight, it was bloody awful going for a walk on the seafront in a mask. I am well distanced from people outdoors and in spite of much stricter measures over there like mask wearing outside and a curfew10-6 rates are increasing.
 
Marvin said:
Is that a weekly comparative decline in hospital deaths in the 60-79 and 80+?

As you say we should be looking for a fall in deaths in the over 80s but why is there a fall in the 60-79 age group? It sounds like there is another process because how would you explain the fall in deaths in the 60-79 age group?
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Don't have time to do this right now as it is that time of day when I have all the data to collate.

But I have posted these daily % numbers each afternoon since it was suggested a week or so ago so they can be tracked via my post history.

I am just keeping an eye on them day to day to watch for a pattern.

Its a shame they are only given in 20 year age bands as I expect most of that 60 - 79 number is over 70.
 
hammocity said:
The CEO of Morrison's is an Ashton lad called David Potts, went to the same school as me, Hartshead, he's a blue as well so hopefully he's reading this, if he is:

David, you earn £6m a year, sort this shit, ffs, you could become the most popular "shop keeper" in the country, even Napoleon would approve.
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www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Morrisons is banning shoppers without masks from all supermarkets unless exempt

The supermarket will no longer allow shoppers in stores without masks
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

well done Morrison, hopefully the other supermarket's will follow
 
Something needs to change, but I'm sick to the back teeth of the government announcements. We're getting nowhere, fast.

Every day it's a positive start with more vaccinations recorded.

Then warnings not to treat the vaccine as the end, and thus is a critical time.

Then the figures are released and it's still going the wrong way. If it wasn't for Headplace's breakdown on here I'd not have so much insight, so thank you for that as the official stats and statements are so often in contradiction to policy that it undermines them.

Then warnings that stricter measures may be required. Then, two weeks after the figures suggest they were needed, a new tier is announced. No wiff waff of a Friday. No walking backwards. No buying soya milk if you haven't done the hokey cokey.


What on earth more do they expect the ordinary folk like me to do? I've been out of the house twice in the last week, I'm working from home and trying to get a break outside when I remember, shopping once a week only, home schooling kids whilst working of a fashion

The problem is, always was, and will remain the numbskulls who don't get the message, don't care about the message or don't believe the message. Get tough or get lost, Boris.
 
Northern Ireland seven day total of cases has fallen from 12K a week or so back below 10,000 to 9591.

Another good sign.

Testing numbers by age: 0 - 19 (1109). 20 - 39 (3583), 40 - 59 (2961). 60 - 79 (1398), 80+ (540)

That is less over 60 testing positive than was true before Christmas I believe. And at 5.6% of the over 80s MUCH less than it was a couple of months ago when it was double that.
 
barney* said:
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Morrisons is banning shoppers without masks from all supermarkets unless exempt

The supermarket will no longer allow shoppers in stores without masks
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

well done Morrison, hopefully the other supermarket's will follow
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I’ve been saying this since last year after the first lockdown stopped, on the radio they were saying it’s the polices response to enforce it, er no, you get security on the front and you say no mask no entry. If I wanted to walk bollock naked in there I’m sure they’d stop me, they have the right to refuse entry to anyone. If the customers don’t like it fuck off somewhere were they aren’t bothered or shop online.
 
Healdplace said:
The full data will be published later from all the nations so we will see.

But they are stoking up so much disquiet over the ad hoc way they are dishing out vaccines that they are in danger of creating the wrong impression for the over 80s who are vulnerable.

As I and others have been posting here for days somehow plenty of them have been missed when under 60s have had it by all accounts just by happenstance.

At a time when they are being told we are in the worst mess imaginable they could end up with vulnerable elderly camping outside the vaccine centres who have heard nothing in hope they might be given the jab by just being there.

Why is our organisation of so many things in this pandemic resembling plans created as they go along not actually planned?
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If you want jab incompetency go to France and Spain. The EU hasn't ordered anywhere enough vaccine either. The UK is the best in Europe and one of the best in the world and is pretty much only behind Israel and UAE in efficiency even if you think it's poor.
 
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