Bollocks. Far too much is being made of this. He has all the traditional forms of communication open to him. How the fk did we function before Twitter?For me it's not so much trump losing his platform that's an issue. Just like the old fire triangle of heat,fuel and oxygen trump and the qanon need a few ingredients to function, one of which is an outraged and reactive opposition feeding a sense of persecution and their conspiracy theories. For the sake of 9 days, I'm not sure the Trump SM blackout is worth it tbh.
Ironically perhaps because he's only been convicted in the high court of social media at present. I'm all for him getting justice, but the mad scramble to deliver it before the 20th feels more like vengeance tbh.Bollocks. Far too much is being made of this. He has all the traditional forms of communication open to him. How the fk did we function before Twitter?
The real question is why isn't he in prison yet?
A lawyer put it this way on MSNBC earlier.Bollocks. Far too much is being made of this. He has all the traditional forms of communication open to him. How the fk did we function before Twitter?
The real question is why isn't he in prison yet?
There’s definitely something in that I feel.Ironically perhaps because he's only been convicted in the high court of social media at present. I'm all for him getting justice, but the mad scramble to deliver it before the 20th feels more like vengeance tbh.
The qanon idiots were hoping for a reenactment of the civil war last week and were (imho) quite cleverly cheated of it by the pretty light security responce. Probably best to let trump fade into obscurity and his followers can go back to worrying about area 51 and the moon landings within a week.There’s definitely something in that I feel.
Biden has failed in his unitethe nation already if it’s his parties control of the senate punishes Trump.
They are that thick not to realise if security is piss poor in the Capitol building they could just walk into Area 51 and bring out some alien technology, like a pen and notebook.The qanon idiots were hoping for a reenactment of the civil war last week and were (imho) quite cleverly cheated of it by the pretty light security responce. Probably best to let trump fade into obscurity and his followers can go back to worrying about area 51 and the moon landings within a week.
The man is holding a smoking gun quite literally at a murder scene. Not vengeance (a typical deflection by apologists). If I had incited a riot, let alone an insurgency, at a public meeting, which led to deaths, I would currently be suiting in a cell with no bail...to argue differently is enabling.Ironically perhaps because he's only been convicted in the high court of social media at present. I'm all for him getting justice, but the mad scramble to deliver it before the 20th feels more like vengeance tbh.
There’s definitely something in that I feel.
Biden has failed in his unitethe nation already if it’s his parties control of the senate punishes Trump.
I completely disagree with this. For one, to impeach would require 17 Republican votes. And how is the nation made united by just letting Trump go on his merry way? If it’s not the Senate, it’s going to be the AG and law enforcement — Biden’s AG. If he lets this go you can bet your ass he’ll go the way of Gerald Ford. And what standing would the US have in foreign relations, ever? That might sit will with many to watch the “world’s Democracy policeman” neutered, and maybe many would like the US to butt out period, which I get, but if we let this go unpunished there isn’t a group of oppressed people on earth in any nation who would turn to us for support. Why should they?There’s definitely something in that I feel.
Biden has failed in his unitethe nation already if it’s his parties control of the senate punishes Trump.
It’s a tough choice.I completely disagree with this. For one, to impeach would require 17 Republican votes. And how is the nation made united by just letting Trump go on his merry way? If it’s not the Senate, it’s going to be the AG and law enforcement — Biden’s AG. If he lets this go you can bet your ass he’ll go the way of Gerald Ford. And what standing would the US have in foreign relations, ever? That might sit will with many to watch the “world’s Democracy policeman” neutered, and maybe many would like the US to butt out period, which I get, but if we let this go unpunished there isn’t a group of oppressed people on earth in any nation who would turn to us for support. Why should they?
I am just guessing here, but for those defending Trump or offering “just let it go away” type of advice, you might find yourself awfully embarrassed in a few weeks or months if stories about his complicity in all of this comes out. He violated amendment 14, section 3 of the Constitution. We let that go, and I don’t see how democracy, our elected representatives, or the people of this nation can ever recover. Should we have just let Nixon off the spare the nation being torn apart?
I think you are quite wrong. Just because I'm not indulging in an internet 'pile on' does not make me an apologist or an enabler. If he is as complicit in murder as you say, then I'm sure justice will be forthcoming. I'm just wary that his brand of politics depends upon dividing us into two tribes spitting abuse at each other and I refuse to be used in that way.The man is holding a smoking gun quite literally at a murder scene. Not vengeance (a typical deflection by apologists). If I had incited a riot, let alone an insurgency, at a public meeting, which led to deaths, I would currently be suiting in a cell with no bail...to argue differently is enabling.
Look, he’s not going be impeached or 25th by the inauguration, so this point is moot. But he can and should be impeached afterwards, and probably pursued for criminal violation of Amendment 14, Section 3. WhenEVER it happens, his rabid support base is going to go nuts, and there’s going to be more division. His approval ratings just came out — 33%. Down a ton, but still — 33%! Thing is, the day Nixon resigned his approval ratings were 25%. The problem you think you are solving by waiting doesn’t go away.I think you are quite wrong. Just because I'm not indulging in an internet 'pile on' does not make me an apologist or an enabler. If he is as complicit in murder as you say, then I'm sure justice will be forthcoming. I'm just wary that his brand of politics depends upon dividing us into two tribes spitting abuse at each other and I refuse to be used in that way.
This is not 'brands' of politics or tribal. It is facism for Christ sake. Your attempt at fence sitting is enabling. You are either part of the solution or you are part of the problem. Amazing how the conservatives become snowflakes all of a sudden.I think you are quite wrong. Just because I'm not indulging in an internet 'pile on' does not make me an apologist or an enabler. If he is as complicit in murder as you say, then I'm sure justice will be forthcoming. I'm just wary that his brand of politics depends upon dividing us into two tribes spitting abuse at each other and I refuse to be used in that way.
I think I agree with you. I just think there is power in the sight of him being quietly reduced to a non entity, and then receiving justice in a very ordinary way rather than him becoming any sort of martyr. I'm actually surprised no one since November has sought to leverage his debts and misdemeanours in order to buy his silence and quiet exit. Nixon was pardoned by his successor I think.Look, he’s not going be impeached or 25th by the inauguration, so this point is moot. But he can and should be impeached afterwards, and probably pursued for criminal violation of Amendment 14, Section 3. WhenEVER it happens, his rabid support base is going to go nuts, and there’s going to be more division. His approval ratings just came out — 33%. Down a ton, but still — 33%! Thing is, the day Nixon resigned his approval ratings were 25%. The problem you think you are solving by waiting doesn’t go away.
The President is complicit in a coup attempt against the nation. We are probably going to find that he, his staff, his supporters in Congress weren’t just complicit — they directed it.
You have no idea about me or my politics. I'm not even really disagreeing with you in terms of outcome, just the manner of delivery. Your simplistic binary view of this is childish but you are most welcome to it.This is not 'brands' of politics or tribal. It is facism for Christ sake. Your attempt at fence sitting is enabling. You are either part of the solution or you are part of the problem. Amazing how the conservatives become snowflakes all of a sudden.
You have no idea about me or my politics. I'm not even really disagreeing with you in terms of outcome, just the manner of delivery. Your simplistic binary view of this is childish but you are most welcome to it.
Some things are simple. Something's are binary. That does not make them childish. Right and wrong are very distinct in this instance.You have no idea about me or my politics. I'm not even really disagreeing with you in terms of outcome, just the manner of delivery. Your simplistic binary view of this is childish but you are most welcome to it.
I stated my opinion less than two posts back.To be fair, no one knows anything about you or your politics because you don’t post any opinion ever.
You are all about bantz and Devil’s advocate.
Your non-specific, scattergun view of all topics to provoke responses is childish, but you are most welcome to it.
Your opinion was not to have one. Hence the enabler conversation.I stated my opinion less than two posts back.
Oh ffs, I'm not defending trump or saying he's 'right', I'm just not into the whole lynch-mob mentality thing. That's how we end up with bigoted reality TV stars in the oval office in the first place.Some things are simple. Something's are binary. That does not make them childish. Right and wrong are very distinct in this instance.