Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Healdplace]

Greater Manchester highlights:

Stockport again had the worst day today as shown by the biggest pop score rise in a day of lower numbers - though itself back down below 200 (just) - as was everyone bar Manchester though it was also down big to lowest number of the week here.

Stockport are now starting to become a bit of a concern. Certainly the worst performing of the 10 boroughs right now. And bigger numbers than they should have on a day where cases fell a lot everywhere.

Both of Oldham and Bury managed to get below 100. Even Wigan was below Stockport.

Total cases 1523 - down 340 - but that is a slightly smaller proportion of the NW drop of 1281 it ought to be and as a result the GM % of the NW total rose to 30%,

This is the highest it has been in the past week as many places elsewhere in the region had bigger falls - such as on Merseyside.

Right now - though the numbers are happily not out of control and not at the level they were when GM was up there driving the NW wave in October/November - there is little doubt that GM is on a bit of a knife edge and Stockport especially could tip either way as right now the biggest problem in the region.

The lockdown should help cases not go out of control and hopefully fall.

But I will not be amazed to hear in the media in a day or two that the new super spreader is revealing big numbers in Stockport. It is not the obvious candidate for being the worst in GM based on past data.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Test and trace is a failure because they rely on people being truthful. They aren't.
Anyway its now delivering - only 9 months late but it is working now. Still needs a quarantine/isolate app to work properly.

It’s also failed because it was centralised (ignoring local Public Health Teams) and focussed on an App, until multi £billions had been wasted. This App gave me a warning of possible Covid exposure when I’d not left the house for a week and I live alone.

 

[Tb1981]

Phenomenal numbers today regarding the vaccination, truly a great effort.

However banning travel is bittersweet. Sweet in that it’s the right thing to do, bitter that it’s 11 months too late.

For all of the failings this government have had this last year, this has to be a massive positive
My mum is having the vaccine tomorrow and I know lots of other people with elderly relatives who have had it.
We obviously weren’t prepared for the pandemic but we seem to be prepared to vaccinate (from approvals to purchasing and the actual vaccination of people)
I guess the haters will still hate but it’s nice to see us doing well at one thing anyway.

 

[Tb1981]

It’s also failed because it was centralised (ignoring local Public Health Teams) and focussed on an App, until multi £billions had been wasted. This App gave me a warning of possible Covid exposure when I’d not left the house for a week and I live alone.

My wife had Covid and my app said zero exposures that week!!
The thing is obviously shite.
That said I think People blaming Boris is a bit harsh as I am pretty sure he spent all this money with the intention of it actually working.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

he spent all this money with the intention of it actually working

It has worked. It's gone to his friends and donors.

 

[mrtwiceaseason]

yea but i feel fine all heeled nicely not sure what to do ! i could phone my GP but that is very busy as people from all over the area are being sent there for their jabs ! perhaps you heel quickly on the outside (scares) but it takes time for your body to get strong to fight of bugs etc

wouldnt mined some time off lol ;)

My mates in this group furloughed unti end of Feb would be Suprised if your employer would have you anywhere near the premises with that letter

 

[Rammy Blue]

Yes McDonalds. Fuck Yes. You are my hero. Great fucking idea. Not had one for 3 months.

Would that be an essential journey?

 

[Summerbuzz]

For all of the failings this government have had this last year, this has to be a massive positive
My mum is having the vaccine tomorrow and I know lots of other people with elderly relatives who have had it.
We obviously weren’t prepared for the pandemic but we seem to be prepared to vaccinate (from approvals to purchasing and the actual vaccination of people)
I guess the haters will still hate but it’s nice to see us doing well at one thing anyway.

It's a tremendous result, no doubt. My only criticism is that it was put up front alongside the announcement of lockdown. I think it did put us at risk of complacency, and it definitely distracted from the important, life saving message.

There's no room at all for that sort of error in communications.

What we're asking doctors to do - by having refused to lockdown sooner or more stringently - is extremely serious stuff:

Covid-19: Protect us from unlawful killing charges - medics

Health groups say NHS staff fear prosecution over decisions if hospitals are overwhelmed.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Tim of the Oak]

My wife had Covid and my app said zero exposures that week!!
The thing is obviously shite.
That said I think People blaming Boris is a bit harsh as I am pretty sure he spent all this money with the intention of it actually working.

It happens a lot that companies and public sector organisations decide to have an App before deciding the most appropriate solution to a problem. Hancock might have decided on the approach, I don’t know. I wish it had been a success.

There is also a problem with members of the public refusing to help track and trace that has been highlighted by several posters.

 

[Cotswold Knight]

What I’m finding fucking annoying is that the house next to me is student house, the country is in lockdown I can’t go anywhere and the fuckers have all returned in the last week

 

[Nellies left peg]

Would that be an essential journey?

Looking at the queues it would appear that it is

 

[BigOscar]

My wife had Covid and my app said zero exposures that week!!
The thing is obviously shite.
That said I think People blaming Boris is a bit harsh as I am pretty sure he spent all this money with the intention of it actually working.

If you put Dido Harding in charge of something, it is 100% your fault when it doesn't work

 

[BlueHammer85]

The UK does not have a monopoly on T&T systems collapsing, 1.8 million people in Portugal have uninstalled our equivalent since September and my wife who is Swiss has reported the same from her family back home.

We have to accept that some of the logistics we are trying to implement are a challenge to all nations around the world as we roll out systems at record speed without being able to fully factor and analyse the variable scenarios that would impact end users’ decision to actually use the application. It was a throw of the dice..

https://www.portugalresident.com/st...ed-by-1-8-million-portuguese-since-september/

I’m sorry. But if you can find my quotes at the time when the app was launched I said it’s a complete waste of money and time. Hardly anyone downloads it, most want to save their battery, old people (the most vulnerable) don’t have a clue about downloading apps and Bluetooth etc.
young people really going to check in where they are and pay attention to it.

was so utterly obvious it would be a failure.

billions wasted whilst the Goverment does its best to give kids in poverty fuck all to eat.

 

[Ban-jani]

Greater Manchester highlights:

Stockport again had the worst day today as shown by the biggest pop score rise in a day of lower numbers - though itself back down below 200 (just) - as was everyone bar Manchester though it was also down big to lowest number of the week here.

Stockport are now starting to become a bit of a concern. Certainly the worst performing of the 10 boroughs right now. And bigger numbers than they should have on a day where cases fell a lot everywhere.

Both of Oldham and Bury managed to get below 100. Even Wigan was below Stockport.

Total cases 1523 - down 340 - but that is a slightly smaller proportion of the NW drop of 1281 it ought to be and as a result the GM % of the NW total rose to 30%,

This is the highest it has been in the past week as many places elsewhere in the region had bigger falls - such as on Merseyside.

Right now - though the numbers are happily not out of control and not at the level they were when GM was up there driving the NW wave in October/November - there is little doubt that GM is on a bit of a knife edge and Stockport especially could tip either way as right now the biggest problem in the region.

The lockdown should help cases not go out of control and hopefully fall.

But I will not be amazed to hear in the media in a day or two that the new super spreader is revealing big numbers in Stockport. It is not the obvious candidate for being the worst in GM based on past data.

As someone in Stockport, well one of its villages in the borough, I can’t understand why, traffic is bad but I don’t see that much stupid stuff.

People must be secretly mixing.

 

[Gabriel]

What I’m finding fucking annoying is that the house next to me is student house, the country is in lockdown I can’t go anywhere and the fuckers have all returned in the last week

Unless they're studying a subject that requires a practical or some other form of face-to-face tuition, there really should be no need.

 

[Ric]

Only wrong by 99.86% - it cost £35m

NHS tech bosses outline cost of coronavirus app development | Computer Weekly

The government is forecasting spend to exceed £35 million in the controversial contact-tracing app, a Public Accounts Committee on digital transformation in the NHS has heard.

www.computerweekly.com

I meant for the whole Track and Trace system, rather than just the app alone, but concede I got the figures wrong. It was only £22bn, not £25bn.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Unless they're studying a subject that requires a practical or some other form of face-to-face tuition, there really should be no need.

They have paid their rent and they will be bored at home. Some will have a practical element to their courses.

 

[Gabriel]

They have paid their rent and they will be bored at home. Some will have a practical element to their courses.

Perhaps for the latter point, but I fear more will return for the former point. Heard one girl interviewed the other day saying she wanted to leave her family home, went back for Christmas, and drive to her rented accommodation to be with her three housemates. No practicals, simply paying for the room and having mental health issues living at home.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Perhaps for the latter point, but I fear more will return for the former point. Heard one girl interviewed the other day saying she wanted to leave her family home, went back for Christmas, and drive to her rented accommodation to be with her three housemates. No practicals, simply paying for the room and having mental health issues living at home.

It's not a reason though. They just want to go back and not behave in the rules, as proven by the students out making snowmen and throwing snowballs in a lockdown. We don't need anymore mixing so they should stay where they are and if they try to travel back they should be arrested. They're just whinging because when they're in the family home they have to behave.

 

[sky tot]

They have paid their rent and they will be bored at home. Some will have a practical element to their courses.

Yep my lad went back to Leeds , he shares a house with 2 others . It’s hard enough keeping a 21yr old in , but when he was at home me and his mother bugged him ... I would of done the same at his age .