Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Healdplace]

So you're saying we should all be drinking Yorkshire tea?

No, but we should figure out what is causing this difference.

May just have been high levels of infectivity in the Spring wave.

And really that this was always going to end in a balance point not a total victory for virus or mankind.

Reaching an equilibrium where vaccines protect but do not eradicate a virus that infects but rarely makes you very sick.

That is a compromise that is achievable as there is no advantage to the virus to eliminate all its hosts. And we may not ever eliminate the virus now it has become so endemic. So that is likely the best case scenario for all concerned.

Learn to live with an enemy not fight a war to the death that will see each side creating ever more convoluted weapons to counteract the counter measures to the last mutation.

 

[Marvin]

Started with symptoms today. Headache, cough (not bad, but regular) and got the shivers. FFS!

Got to say I'm a bit freaked out. I was yesterday, wondering when/if I'd get it, but shit just got real.

Mrs got symptoms last Friday, tested Sat, positive result Sunday morning. She's ok but feeling groggy and completely lost her voice now. I told her not to be working doing online lessons (from home) yesterday, but no...

Reckon she got it last Monday in school as a colleague who was working in the same staff-room tested +ve on Thursday. But who knows?

Can't believe the school were still insisting that they go in to do remote lessons. The cunts.

I got a test kit delivered, but spoke to Test and Trace (for her as she can't speak) and they said there's no point doing it now as we're isolating for 10 days from today anyway. Just assume I've also got it.

Fingers crossed for everyone who's in a similar boat.

FFS indeed! I can't believe the number of blues coming down with this now. Look after yourselves. We need to get those vaccines rolled out and fast.

 

[thepolarbear]

And that is the point the government are not arsed about the deaths it’s about the nhs getting over run

Correct they are not responsible for the deaths but they are responsible for ICU not having enough beds.

 

[thepolarbear]

Good luck mate. Speedy recovery.

Some really interesting points in the last couple of pages, so thanks to everyone who's posted. @inbetween, regarding the vitamin D - you may be interested to know that as I've said before I think I've been lucky enough (so far) to have came through this relatively unscathed. That's after taking a vit D supplement for months. One supplement I've not taken is Zinc and consequently I've completely lost taste and smell, and from what I know Zinc specifically helps with these senses. Might be something or might just be coincidence, and I know a few posters on here recommended Zinc, and I suppose my own situation backs up both the argument for vitamin D and the argument for Zinc.

I shall be joining you soon in Ayrshire! If COVId allows us to view houses!

 

[frothy]

That's a great outlook to have mate.

As you say, this country needs its people to be responsible, and spend their cash at home more than ever.

I am hopeful of going up to Scotland again in August and seeing some family and creating our own little bubble.

If Nicola decides to let us in...

Our Daughter and Grandkids live in Scotland haven't seen them since July, so that's our first break when the restrictions are lifted

 

[kaz7]

In fairness you were just guessing in March Kaz. You didnt know how this virus was going to behave and mutate.

I wasnt guessing , i followed the experts

 

[ayrshire_blue]

I shall be joining you soon in Ayrshire! If COVId allows us to view houses!

North, East or S*uth?

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Our Daughter and Grandkids live in Scotland haven't seen them since July, so that's our first break when the restrictions are lifted

Lovely. We go up each summer to visit family and this year would be very special.

 

[Healdplace]

Wales data: Still going in a positive direction here.

8 deaths - it was 16 last Tuesday

1106 cases - it was 1332 last Tuesday.

At 10,5% positivity.

The national Weekly Pop falls again from 306 to 295.

This is a big turnaround.

 

[Healdplace]

Wales vaccination data:

Just 10, 195 first doses given yesterday and 64 second doses.

That is a FALL.

They did 13, 402 first doses on Friday and 25, 362 over the two weekend days

Second doses are low every day here. That is almost as many as they did over 2 days at weekend.

Even so Wales is not speeding up it is slowing down and you have to wonder if supply is lower than we know.

 

[kaz7]

That’s brilliant news mate.
I personally feel I’m a fair way from recovery (it’s going the wrong way) but your news is a helpful positive.
That brief walk around the flat when I thought my heart was going to give out, scared me a bit.

Call 111 , they will get a dr to call you back and give you antibiotics ,they send it to whatever chemist you want and you just collect it , do it now

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Hancocks stated in one of the pressers it will be groups 1 to 7 before we'll see a serious roll back as that will take out the huge bulk of hospitalizations as well

They are booking in group 4 already so hopefully the supply holds up

1 Residents in a care home for older adults and their carers
2 All those 80 years of age and over Frontline health and social care workers
3 All those 75 years of age and over
4 All those 70 years of age and over Clinically extremely vulnerable individuals*
5 All those 65 years of age and over
6 All individuals aged 16 years to 64 years with underlying health conditions which put them at higher risk of serious disease and mortality
7 All those 60 years of age and over

The supply looks to me to be critical - come March, the second dose will be being need for the first 4 bands, so the amount needed will increase hugely.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

The supply looks to me to be critical - come March, the second dose will be being need for the first 4 bands, so the amount needed will increase hugely.

Hopefully they've been allocating the vaccines in such a way that we've built in the lag time between doses to replenish our stocks of each vaccine for the second dose i.e. moving over to Oxford vaccines to allow us time to replenish the Pfizer stocks for the second doses.

 

[Healdplace]

Currently Wales and Scotland have vaccinated about 6% of their population.

England is at 8% as of yesterday and N Ireland the best in the UK having vaccinated 8.7% of its population.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

I wasnt guessing , i followed the experts

If you say so Kaz, im in no mood to dissagree with you today.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Started with symptoms today. Headache, cough (not bad, but regular) and got the shivers. FFS!

Got to say I'm a bit freaked out. I was yesterday, wondering when/if I'd get it, but shit just got real.

Mrs got symptoms last Friday, tested Sat, positive result Sunday morning. She's ok but feeling groggy and completely lost her voice now. I told her not to be working doing online lessons (from home) yesterday, but no...

Reckon she got it last Monday in school as a colleague who was working in the same staff-room tested +ve on Thursday. But who knows?

Can't believe the school were still insisting that they go in to do remote lessons. The cunts.

I got a test kit delivered, but spoke to Test and Trace (for her as she can't speak) and they said there's no point doing it now as we're isolating for 10 days from today anyway. Just assume I've also got it.

Fingers crossed for everyone who's in a similar boat.

Get well soon to you both mate. My wife also brought it home as a teacher.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

You might not fancy it, but you're living in a complete dream land if you think we're going to be in lockdown with deaths <20 a day. We came out of lockdown 1 at 350 deaths/day.

Depends what you mean.

July 4th we came into the lowest restrcitions.

*cases* per day were 400 then

[edit. and schools didn't return until Sept]

 

[Healdplace]

25, 008 care home residents in the UK have had Covid mentioned on death certificates. That is a big percentage of all the tragic deaths in the nation and - whilst it is never going to be easy to tackle them - the fact this was obvious as a big problem from day one (the first major western outbreak was in a Seattle care home before we locked down) - our inability to address it will be one of the first scandals once we do emerge from where we are now into whatever the new normal this Summer looks like. Because it was predictable and not completely avoidable but not enough was done to stop it becoming a disaster.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Started with symptoms today. Headache, cough (not bad, but regular) and got the shivers. FFS!

Got to say I'm a bit freaked out. I was yesterday, wondering when/if I'd get it, but shit just got real.

Mrs got symptoms last Friday, tested Sat, positive result Sunday morning. She's ok but feeling groggy and completely lost her voice now. I told her not to be working doing online lessons (from home) yesterday, but no...

Reckon she got it last Monday in school as a colleague who was working in the same staff-room tested +ve on Thursday. But who knows?

Can't believe the school were still insisting that they go in to do remote lessons. The cunts.

I got a test kit delivered, but spoke to Test and Trace (for her as she can't speak) and they said there's no point doing it now as we're isolating for 10 days from today anyway. Just assume I've also got it.

Fingers crossed for everyone who's in a similar boat.

Get well soon, mate.

 

[Len Rum]

Hancocks stated in one of the pressers it will be groups 1 to 7 before we'll see a serious roll back as that will take out the huge bulk of hospitalizations as well

They are booking in group 4 already so hopefully the supply holds up

1 Residents in a care home for older adults and their carers
2 All those 80 years of age and over Frontline health and social care workers
3 All those 75 years of age and over
4 All those 70 years of age and over Clinically extremely vulnerable individuals*
5 All those 65 years of age and over
6 All individuals aged 16 years to 64 years with underlying health conditions which put them at higher risk of serious disease and mortality
7 All those 60 years of age and over

Yes fingers crossed the supply holds up because the roll out is proceeding really well.
The Govt seem to be a bit cagey about this. I hope they're just being cautious.
One word of caution - booking in groups 3- 4 is being done only in regions where (we are told) they have already vaccinated at least 90% of over 80s. It doesn't mean all over 80s have been vaccinated in all regions. Far from it.