Political relations between UK-EU

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Welcome to customs barriers, example 147, and rising.

Previously, we were all in the same customs area and regulatory market so there was never an issue. Now everything is an issue until you legally prove otherwise. This is especially true of foodstuffs.

‘Brexit holds up crisp deliver to Belfast. Lorry load of crisps was held up for two days in Northern Ireland because they couldn't prove it wasn't at risk of going to to republic of Ireland, says Bernard Jenkins. "I mean this is ridiculous. This isn't a threat to the single market"
 
bluethrunthru said:
People are upset at having to pay customs charges and VAT on items bought and shipped from abroad - MP's answer? Buy British. Two issues with that.
1/ we don't mass manufacture EVERYTHING in the UK.
2/ I was led to believe Brexit was about trading with the world.

Not living up to its billing is it?

www.bbc.co.uk

Brexit: 'I was asked to pay an extra £82 for my £200 coat'

Shoppers buying items from Europe now have to pay customs or VAT charges on those above a certain value.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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As confirmed by the taxman.

‘HMRC boss Jim Harra confirms that consumers will be hit by price hikes when they order goods from the EU online.

1. VAT
2. customs duties if goods is not EU/Brit product under rules of origin rules.
3. cost of courier/Royal mail for doing the customs clearance for you. €12’
 
BobKowalski said:
As confirmed by the taxman.

‘HMRC boss Jim Harra confirms that consumers will be hit by price hikes when they order goods from the EU online.

1. VAT
2. customs duties if goods is not EU/Brit product under rules of origin rules.
3. cost of courier/Royal mail for doing the customs clearance for you. €12’
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And the rules of origin are fairly incomprehensible, a mountain of work and HMRC will be after everyone when they inevitably misinterpret them.
 
How long will businesses last when they are at such a fundamental disadvantage?

Or alternatively, how long before the inevitable collapse towards the equilibrium?

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BobKowalski said:
As confirmed by the taxman.

‘HMRC boss Jim Harra confirms that consumers will be hit by price hikes when they order goods from the EU online.

1. VAT
2. customs duties if goods is not EU/Brit product under rules of origin rules.
3. cost of courier/Royal mail for doing the customs clearance for you. €12’
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so unless there is some kind of 'new deal', all of that is permanent isn't it?
No amount of automation will eliminate those charges although it might make the overall process more efficient given time and money.
 
BobKowalski said:
Welcome to customs barriers, example 147, and rising.

Previously, we were all in the same customs area and regulatory market so there was never an issue. Now everything is an issue until you legally prove otherwise. This is especially true of foodstuffs.

‘Brexit holds up crisp deliver to Belfast. Lorry load of crisps was held up for two days in Northern Ireland because they couldn't prove it wasn't at risk of going to to republic of Ireland, says Bernard Jenkins. "I mean this is ridiculous. This isn't a threat to the single market"
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TBF Tayto crisps are the best....im sticking with them anyway :-)
 
BobKowalski said:
Welcome to customs barriers, example 147, and rising.

Previously, we were all in the same customs area and regulatory market so there was never an issue. Now everything is an issue until you legally prove otherwise. This is especially true of foodstuffs.

‘Brexit holds up crisp deliver to Belfast. Lorry load of crisps was held up for two days in Northern Ireland because they couldn't prove it wasn't at risk of going to to republic of Ireland, says Bernard Jenkins. "I mean this is ridiculous. This isn't a threat to the single market"
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Bernard Jenkin - hugely disingenuous or epically stupid take your choice. The point of principle it is that it IS a threat to the single market. Alternatively a boat full of refugee's turn up at Harwich harbour and Bernard says "let them in - its only one boat full its hardly a threat to the UK population" - yeah course he would.
 
jaseirai said:
Less hassle to deny it to the EU than call in 27 ambassadors and downgrade them though.
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The desire for self immolation and martyrdom is strong in this one, Obi-Wan.

Whats the over and under on Johnson capitulating? I’ll go for under two months.

Mind you, with all this capitulating the EU might start thinking we’re Italian.
 
The way things are going I'll give it 6 months until we're effectively back in the SM and CU. However the government will be quite creative in what they call it.
 
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