Postal votes in the UK (During covid and beyond)

[Ancient Citizen]

errrrrrr- a certain pandemic may influence peoples intentions - you can't go to a match, you can't go swimming at the baths, you can't go to a gym but you must be forced to attend a polling station shoulder to shoulder? I think you may have had a wee sip of Trumps KoolAid

I qualified that statement, with Covid excepted, but I see the usual dive in.
Good to see Corbyn's Kool Aid was as effective as him, we may not have had the pleasure of polite discourse.

 

[BobKowalski]

Surely not, otherwise you end up with things like Brexit...

And you still want as many people voting as possible. People have to accept the consequences of their decisions. Brexit and it’s negative impact, or high Covid death rates for example.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

That isn’t an argument. Why is making voting easier or more convenient for people an issue?

Don’t you want as many people voting as possible?

It's very easy and convenient now. But as I said, want away, just like all the other things you never get, add this to the ever growing pile.

 

[bluethrunthru]

I qualified that statement, with Covid excepted, but I see the usual dive in.
Good to see Corbyn's Kool Aid was as effective as him, we may not have had the pleasure of polite discourse.

when responding - or diving in as you seem to think - this is your post that I was responding to. Where is Covid mentioned? Did you use invisible ink or something? Is there a coded message in there I didn't see?

Cobblers is more fitting.
Absentee, disabled, etc;, no problem, why do you want it rolled out for everyone?

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Any other period in history, this wouldn’t even be discussed. It’s the overflow from the Trump playbook.

Voter fraud is minuscule in this country. Nothing to see here.

Voter fraud in the USA is also miniscule, and it's more likely to be Republicans.

The difference in the USA is that the vast majority of people who chose to vote by post are historically Democratic voters, and Trump ACTIVELY tried to derail the postal system in the run up to the election.

Not the case in the UK.

 

[BobKowalski]

It's very easy and convenient now. But as I said, want away, just like all the other things you never get, add this to the ever growing pile.

I am asking why you do not want more convenient and easier ways to vote? What is your objection to making things more convenient for people?

 

[hgblue]

Don’t trust lefties not to use this as an opportunity to cheat.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

when responding - or diving in as you seem to think - this is your post that I was responding to. Where is Covid mentioned? Did you use invisible ink or something? Is there a coded message in there I didn't see?

You dived at the first sight of that, covid was discussed later, and I said
that obviously postal votes are used. The topic is 'Postal Votes,' not just the application of them during a pandemic, whether it's good, bad or whatever.
Hope this helps.

 

[kaz7]

Voter fraud in the USA is also miniscule, and it's more likely to be Republicans.

The difference in the USA is that the vast majority of people who chose to vote by post are historically Democratic voters, and Trump ACTIVELY tried to derail the postal system in the run up to the election.

Not the case in the UK.

it seems a lifetime away from him taking the post boxes out

 

[Ancient Citizen]

I am asking why you do not want more convenient and easier ways to vote? What is your objection to making things more convenient for people?

Where do you post these votes? You have to go to a post box, I'd have thought.
Why not vote online? Why not get someone else to do it all for you?
There are many ways to make it even easier than posting, why limit it
to that? See where I'm going?
Anyway, I know you're not too bothered but footy calls;)

 

[urban genie]

I actually started the thread as they are being encouraged because of the pandemic, which I asumed was obvious, as we are in a pandemic.

Anyway it is still a topic for discussion pandemic or not.

I know people who changed to them for various reasons, mainly to do with work and how they may not be in or around their polling station on the day.

Personally it would be much easier for me to postal vote all the time but also quite easy to walk 2 streets to my polling station.

I would encourage more use for those that cannot get out and especially say the May vote should be postal anyone who can do a postal vote in a pandemic should

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

it seems a lifetime away from him taking the post boxes out

Lewis De Joy is still the head of the USPS, which is just bizarre, considering that he blatantly removed postal sorting machines, and put other policies in place to affect mail distribution in clearly targeted Democratic areas.

 

[The perfect fumble]

No, it's the easiest way to implement fraud, the only valid reasons for it
is absentee votes. If you can't be arsed to get round the corner to a polling
booth, don't bother.
It's interesting, but not surprising, to see Labour pushing for it.

Yeah, Labour always gives cover for the Asians, same as the Democrats with the Blacks in Pittsburgh and Atlanta.

Thank god we have patriots like you willing to dog whistle this bullshit.

 

[Ban-jani]

Yeah, Labour always gives cover for the Asians, same as the Dems in the US with the Blacks in Pittsburgh and Atlanta.

Thank god we have patriots like you willing to dog whistle this bullshit.

Is there ever a day on this forum where someone on the left doesn’t bring up race, in a subject that doesn’t have anything to do with race?

 

[bluethrunthru]

You dived at the first sight of that, covid was discussed later, and I said
that obviously postal votes are used. The topic is 'Postal Votes,' not just the application of them during a pandemic, whether it's good, bad or whatever.
Hope this helps.

maybe - instead of diving in as you put it - your cause would be better served if you sat back, thought through what point you were trying to make and expanded it to include all such likely observations because whilst the topic is Postal Votes and you are keen to allege what has always been a tiny issue of voter fraud in the past the biggest driver for an upsurge in postal votes is bound to be the bleedin' obvious. Indeed whilst the vaccine rollout continues and there will be people who have had the virus and acquired anti-bodies there is still a chance of regional lockdowns and government restrictions on gatherings meaning increased demand for postal votes will remain.

I am currently recovering from Covid 19 and am indoors until 14th Feb but if the news on antibodies acquisition remains favourable I'll have no qualms about attending in person and voting. What about you? I assume with your aversion to mail in votes then regardless of any acquired immunity or absence of a vaccination by that date you'll just be puffing out your chest and striding in there to vote in person?

 

[Hart of the Matter]

Is there ever a day on this forum where someone on the left doesn’t bring up race, in a subject that doesn’t have anything to do with race?

Is there ever a day when you don't rise to it?

 

[Ban-jani]

Is there ever a day when you don't rise to it?

Another day, more obsessed behaviour from you towards me.

You must really love me.

 

[The perfect fumble]

maybe - instead of diving in as you put it - your cause would be better served if you sat back, thought through what point you were trying to make and expanded it to include all such likely observations because whilst the topic is Postal Votes and you are keen to allege what has always been a tiny issue of voter fraud in the past the biggest driver for an upsurge in postal votes is bound to be the bleedin' obvious. Indeed whilst the vaccine rollout continues and there will be people who have had the virus and acquired anti-bodies there is still a chance of regional lockdowns and government restrictions on gatherings meaning increased demand for postal votes will remain.

I am currently recovering from Covid 19 and am indoors until 14th Feb but if the news on antibodies acquisition remains favourable I'll have no qualms about attending in person and voting. What about you? I assume with your aversion to mail in votes then regardless of any acquired immunity or absence of a vaccination by that date you'll just be puffing out your chest and striding in there to vote in person?

The right always want to suppress the vote, always and everywhere. I'll give them their due, it's not just Asians and blacks, they make it difficult for students to vote as well and they long to introduce identity checks at polling stations, always in the name of combating fraud you understand, which as you say is so small as to be practically non-existent.

The right take it as a given that the left will always seek to undermine electoral integrity, its motives in everything are always suspect, of course the smarter right wingers know it's nothing but a lie. The fact that Covid 19 makes postal votes vital is dismissed as nothing more than another left wing excuse to engage in their usual shenanigans.

 

[urban genie]

Is there ever a day on this forum where someone on the left doesn’t bring up race, in a subject that doesn’t have anything to do with race?

Tbf to fumble only 2 nationally reported instances of postal vote fraud allegations have both been with the accusation it happend in imigrant communities in wycombe, by well known tory gobshite steve baker MP and Peterbproughs Asian community accused by farage and his party.

So the accusation that it is in those communities already exists.


Not that ot matters to answering the original question of whether you will use the service or not

General comment not reply to you Ban below


I have changed the thread title once already as I couldn't give a shite about the US system so reverted it to UK postal votes, why people have to veer off topic I don't know.

Any and all of you

 

[The perfect fumble]

I am currently recovering from Covid 19 and am indoors until 14th Feb but if the news on antibodies acquisition remains favourable I'll have no qualms about attending in person and voting.

Sorry to hear that mate, get well soon.