Coronavirus (2021) thread

[blueparrot]

Are Palestinians getting any vac?

They are vaccinating Palestinians that work in Israel. Don’t know whats happening in Palestine.

 

[Healdplace]

So the deaths today - with England out of hospital to come - always low or nil at weekend - are :-

Last 5 weeks:- 704 v 682 v 454 v 331 v 283 Today

Good to be under 300 even on a Sunday.

 

[unicorn]

If coffee shops are serving outside the door and queues are 2 metres does it matter ? Same as Greggs are doing.

Exactly. Don't get this hysteria about queueing for a coffee. In Sheffield they're normally wearing a mask outside, too; certainly people I see are observing distancing and not taking any more than risks than you are queueing to pay in the supermarket.

 

[Healdplace]

And cases from the 3 nations (with just England to come) over 6 wks:-

3335 v 2424 v 2034 v 1379 v 1473 v 1426 Today

I think the word stall applies to the last 3 weeks as it is very flat and whilst down slightly wk to wk slightly up v 2 wks ago

 

[KS55]

They are vaccinating Palestinians that work in Israel. Don’t know whats happening in Palestine.

Thanks. I understand that there are disputes over whether Israel is blocking imports of the vac. Israel says no, some Palestinians say half the deliveries have not got thru. The usual stuff, i suppose.

 

[KS55]

I am very grown up thanks. But I will give you an opportunity to explain, why did you ask about whether or not the Palestinians are being vaccinated, it’s a total non sequitur.

Read the papers. Some Palestinians claim that Israel is blocking at least half the deliveries, but Israel says it isnt. Hence a q to anyone who might have info. It is a humanitarian issue not a political one.
So kind of you to let me justify myself to your ignorance.
Look up non sequitur, you clearly do not know what it means.
PS. The israeli health minister says it is the Palestinians' responsibility under the Oslo accords but the UN says this is not so as international law overrides the accords, esp as imports are controlled by Israel.

 

[03 March 2002]

03 March 2002,Birthday that day went away for the weekend after we beat Coventry at Maine road.

First game I went to :) guessed the score correctly too.

 

[Healdplace]

Btw 24 of those 258 England hospital deaths date from over 4 weeks ago so some might be discounted.

35 different dates contributed to that 258 and only 213 actually happened in the past week.

 

[Healdplace]

The 258 England hospital deaths were aged between 29 and 101.

17 had no known underlying conditions They were aged between 52 and 100.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

Like a vaccine?

A single, traditional-style, vaccine like we're developing now likely won't work to protect us from all variants - COVID-19 seems to be similar to the flu in this regard; yearly variant-predicited vacines may be necessary.

 

[Healdplace]

England vaccinations:-

306. 109 first doses given yesterday over 120,000 fewer than last week and down from 323, 802 yesterday

This now means approximately 33% of all those over 18 in England have now had at least one dose.

Regionally the South West at 38% has done the highest proportion of their population and London at 25% has done the least.

North West has done slightly above average at 34%

Worth noting that the South West - the area with the biggest percentage of adults vaccinated - has fallen the most of the southern regions in the past month or so.

It now has a Pop Score well under 100 and just 578 cases yesterday and just four weeks ago it had 3712.

Those 4 weeks ago they had over 2300 in hospital and 220 on ventilators. Now they have just 775 patients and 96 on ventilators.

 

[Tonster]

A single, traditional-style, vaccine like we're developing now likely won't work to protect us from all variants - COVID-19 seems to be similar to the flu in this regard.

And that’s why it will be updated to take into account of variants (as already promised by AZ etc) and likely to become an annual vaccination similar to flu which is also changed every year

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

You're right but the under 50's (possibly under 40's) were probably the largest demographic ignoring lockdown rules.

It’ll be the under 40’s who feel the economic brunt of all of this when the dust settles.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

And that’s why it will be updated to take into account of variants (as already promised by AZ etc) and likely to become an annual vaccination similar to flu which is also changed every year

Which is depressing - as sometimes predictions are off and the vaccine is much less effective than anticipated - and often many people come down with the flu each year in spite of the availability of vaccines.

COVID-19 unfortunately is much more lethal than the flu (save for certain - e.g, 1918 - flu variants).

Worst case - vaccinations just prevent infection from the previous strain - to ensure safety of the populace, extant distancing/masking/safety protocols are necessary perhaps in a slightly attenuated form - which obviously has a massive impact on our economy.

On the whole, a deadly, mutating virus able to evade vaccines - is a very upsetting development.

Yet I've some hope - as bioengineering is experiencing exponential growth in sophistication. We might well develop some sort of silver bullet in the next decade or two.

 

[Healdplace]

Another good day of data. Likely low tests (often are at weekend) but first sub 10,000 Sunday number


215 all setting deaths - lowest of the year

And

9834 cases.

2021 week to week on Sundays

54, 990 v 54, 940 v 38, 598 v 30, 004 v 21, 088 v 15, 845 v 10, 972 v 9834

 

[hammocity]

It’ll be the under 40’s who feel the economic brunt of all of this when the dust settles.

It's always been that way and it'll be the working class population who suffer the most. I wouldn't like to guess the financial damage to the UK by the end of the pandemic but the upshot will be the middle class (and above) won't feel it too much but those in lower economic groups (which is by far the greatest demographic in the UK) will take the hit.

 

[Healdplace]

More after the match. But North West the only region to go up today despite the fall in cases.

By just 71 to 1379.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Another good day of data. Likely low tests (often are at weekend) but first sub 10,000 Sunday number


215 all setting deaths - lowest of the year

And

9834 cases.

2021 week to week on Sundays

54, 990 v 54, 940 v 38, 598 v 30, 004 v 21, 088 v 15, 845 v 10, 972 v 9834

when you see the case numbers like that you can see how far we have come.

 

[worsleyweb]

Which is depressing - as sometimes predictions are off and the vaccine is much less effective than anticipated - and often many people come down with the flu each year in spite of the availability of vaccines.

COVID-19 unfortunately is much more lethal than the flu (save for certain - e.g, 1918 - flu variants).

Worst case - vaccinations just prevent infection from the previous strain - to ensure safety of the populace, extant distancing/masking/safety protocols are necessary perhaps in a slightly attenuated form - which obviously has a massive impact on our economy.

On the whole, a deadly, mutating virus able to evade vaccines - is a very upsetting development.

Yet I've some hope - as bioengineering is experiencing exponential growth in sophistication. We might well develop some sort of silver bullet in the next decade or two.

decade or two! Ffs - my garden will be imense by then

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

decade or two! Ffs - my garden will be imense by then

I'm not at all sure what your comment means - maybe it's an attempt at humor - but if you don't believe in science - then please never vote again - because, if you're anti-science, you're a danger to us all.