Coronavirus (2021) thread

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How come it's always anti-vaxxers that know bad stories like this and never anyone who isn't anti-vax? Genuine question. You'd think some of us by now without scepticism would have come across a similar story given how many had had a jab, but it's only ever people who are against them in the first place.
Yeah, these stories that people come out with have a huge whiff of bullshit as they always seem to be from anti-vaxxers. And I say that as someone who had a close relative suffer permanent mental and physical disability from a vaccine back in the 60s.
 
As you should not. It is down to the health centre and area you live in and some have few older or vulnerable people living locally so get down to younger ages more quickly.

But they are speeding this up everywhere. The vaccination programme has been superbly organised. A big advantage created by our National Health System and a reminder of how lucky we are and foresighted to have created that after the war. We should never take it for granted when you see how many less joined up nations driven by private healthy care in multiple forms are doing trying to organise with no such cohesion.

Oh and my niece who is at uni and just 22 has her jab this week too. She was as surprised as you. But this is going to be more and more common as we accelerate round the last bend.

where's mine then? chop chop...
 
So total deaths today with out of hospital England to come (and any deductions from the backdated cases) is 202. It was 179 yesterday.

Thursday to Thursday: - 202 - Last week 227 - wk before 311 - wk before 386 wk before - 573
 
This is the problem i have with this Vaccine.

I am not anti-vaccination, in fact i am all for them if they are safe.

I am not convinced they are safe though.

It is alright saying ,don't blow it out of proportion. That highly likely you will be okay.

What if i am an unlucky fucker and i am not ?

I suffer from all sorts of allergies, I already have a compromised immune system from having Glandular Fever, as well as a couple of patches of Psoriasis.

I have legitimate concerns the vaccination might kill me.

This is why i am waiting out for a while yet.

Not because i am being a selfish fucker .I am waiting it out to see how people with my sort of conditions do over the next few months.

Seems like common sense to me.
 
And three nation cases sadly over 1000 for second day running (only just mind) after quite a run of three figure numbers.

Very likely not unconnected with school testing and the huge rise to 1.5 million daily tests.

Total: wk to wk: - 1493 v 1317 v 1362 v 930

Today it is 1009
 
This is the problem i have with this Vaccine.

I am not anti-vaccination, in fact i am all for them if they are safe.

I am not convinced they are safe though.

It is alright saying ,don't blow it out of proportion. That highly likely you will be okay.

What if i am an unlucky fucker and i am not ?

I suffer from all sorts of allergies, I already have a compromised immune system from having Glandular Fever, as well as a couple of patches of Psoriasis.

I have legitimate concerns the vaccination might kill me.

This is why i am waiting out for a while yet.

Not because i am being a selfish fucker .I am waiting it out to see how people with my sort of conditions do over the next few months.

Seems like common sense to me.
Well you’d better hope with all that going on you don’t catch it while you’re ‘waiting it out’ then.
 
Any of our scientists here able to comment on how concerned we should be that some Euro nations have again stopped use of the AZ/Oxford vaccine after claims one batch (not apparently used in the UK) has been associated with several reported blood clots?

There do not seem to be any reports from the UK where you would assume this would be apparent if a factor of the vaccine given we surely have vaccinated more with it here than any other country? And started earlier.

It is likely just precautionary based on a handful of cases. But AZ does not need more bad publicity if it has substance even in a single batch.

Await investigation.

It's almost certainly not a common general issue with the vaccine, or would have been detected long ago as many millions of doses have been administered.

Most probably random association, less likely some particular issue with a specific batch.

There was a similar alert from Norway early in the Pfizer rollout. Nothing came of it.
 
This is the problem i have with this Vaccine.

I am not anti-vaccination, in fact i am all for them if they are safe.

I am not convinced they are safe though.

It is alright saying ,don't blow it out of proportion. That highly likely you will be okay.

What if i am an unlucky fucker and i am not ?

I suffer from all sorts of allergies, I already have a compromised immune system from having Glandular Fever, as well as a couple of patches of Psoriasis.

I have legitimate concerns the vaccination might kill me.

This is why i am waiting out for a while yet.

Not because i am being a selfish fucker .I am waiting it out to see how people with my sort of conditions do over the next few months.

Seems like common sense to me.
You are a 100% conspiracy theorist nutjob. You have posted some absolute bollocks in this and other covid threads. You will go through your whole life never realising what a complete moon you are.
 
As you should not. It is down to the health centre and area you live in and some have few older or vulnerable people living locally so get down to younger ages more quickly.

But they are speeding this up everywhere. The vaccination programme has been superbly organised. A big advantage created by our National Health System and a reminder of how lucky we are and foresighted to have created that after the war. We should never take it for granted when you see how many less joined up nations driven by private healthy care in multiple forms are doing trying to organise with no such cohesion.

Oh and my niece who is at uni and just 22 has her jab this week too. She was as surprised as you. But this is going to be more and more common as we accelerate round the last bend.

The area I live has a very old population, I'm the youngest person on the whole street. But the GP is located on a council estate around 2 miles away. My guess is the age of the population is a lot lower round there, and there will have been significant lack of uptake for the vaccine.

First question the staff member asked me was "would you be interested in the vaccine?". Poor woman has probably had her ear bitten off by several internet conspiracy anti-vax types.
 
This is the problem i have with this Vaccine.

I am not anti-vaccination, in fact i am all for them if they are safe.

I am not convinced they are safe though.

It is alright saying ,don't blow it out of proportion. That highly likely you will be okay.

What if i am an unlucky fucker and i am not ?

I suffer from all sorts of allergies, I already have a compromised immune system from having Glandular Fever, as well as a couple of patches of Psoriasis.

I have legitimate concerns the vaccination might kill me.

This is why i am waiting out for a while yet.

Not because i am being a selfish fucker .I am waiting it out to see how people with my sort of conditions do over the next few months.

Seems like common sense to me.
Understand your concern but having psoriasis and glandular fever shouldn't be an issue. Have you suffered from Anaphylaxis?
 
159 England hospital deaths by region:

40 Midlands, 38 London, 22 NE & Yorkshire, 22 North West, South East18, East 17, South West 2

11 Croydon and 9 Worcestershire the most today.

Manchester 5, St Helens 4 and East Lancashire 4 most in NW.


By age:

20 - 39 (2) 1.3%

40 - 59 (12) 7.5%

60 - 79 (67) 42.1%

80 PLUS (78) 49.1%


Starting to look like this is not going to really be worth monitoring as a guide to anything statistically.

No consistent pattern other than below 50% all the time now.

Likely will not shift much more proportionately as - however well the vaccines work - the older you are the more vulnerable you will be.
 
Turns out the events being investigated on the AZ jab are massively higher in COVID victims.

So even if true (very unlikely), you'd still be far better off with than without the vaccine.

 
As you should not. It is down to the health centre and area you live in and some have few older or vulnerable people living locally so get down to younger ages more quickly.

But they are speeding this up everywhere. The vaccination programme has been superbly organised. A big advantage created by our National Health System and a reminder of how lucky we are and foresighted to have created that after the war. We should never take it for granted when you see how many less joined up nations driven by private healthy care in multiple forms are doing trying to organise with no such cohesion.

Oh and my niece who is at uni and just 22 has her jab this week too. She was as surprised as you. But this is going to be more and more common as we accelerate round the last bend.
I watched a report on France24 the other week, couldn't believe how it is being rolled out in some places there, the GP gets a call from the local Chemist Shop to say we have for example 12 shots of the Vaccine for you, he then has to go to the Chemist to pick them up in a cool bag, gets back to his surgery has a look on his PC for the most vulnerable patients and rings them up and asks if they want the Vaccine and if so can they come to the Surgery now, no wonder they are so far behind us
 
6753 cases - first week to week rise unfortunately. By 180.

Up 827 on yesterday.

Highest number since 27 February.

All that rise in England day to day. 881 up on yesterday here.
 
6753 cases - first week to week rise unfortunately. By 180.

Up 827 on yesterday.

Highest number since 27 February.

All that rise in England day to day. 881 up on yesterday here.
Watch the media pounce on that tiny rise tonight, without giving context of 1.5 million tests or finding out current hospitalisation numbers.
 
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