Coronavirus (2021) thread

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If the vaccine doesn’t work what is the point in compulsorily vaccinating staff ?

The vaccine "working" is not a binary on/off thing like a light bulb.

It reduces the likelihood and severity of infection.

If you get a staff member bringing the virus into a home, it's still possible for a significant outbreak, including hospitalisations and deaths.
 
Also, the risk of Stockholm syndrome is strong.

With the awareness around mental health issues these days I hope this is an aspect of psychological trauma that becomes well publicised, otherwise many people will be cowering away from normal and safe and pleasurable aspects of life for years to come.
On the radio last night there was a woman saying she's scared for life to go back to normal, I couldn't believe my ears because I can't even comprehend that, and felt really sorry for her.
 
The vaccine "working" is not a binary on/off thing like a light bulb.

It reduces the likelihood and severity of infection.

If you get a staff member bringing the virus into a home, it's still possible for a significant outbreak, including hospitalisations and deaths.
My understanding is that the vaccine isn’t 100% effective and as yet we have limited evidence it reduces the likelihood of getting infected or reduces transmission.

Why make compulsory something that isn’t 100% effective ?
 
Apparently Simon Calder has just been on the TV encouraging people to book their foreign holidays. Saying (in terms) don't worry, it will all be fine and if there's a problem you can cancel and get your money back in 2 weeks.

How fucking irresponsible when this goes dead against current government advice.

The reality is who knows what/whether restrictions are going to be lifted and it is very far from "it will all be fine". And so much for the law about giving money back - it took me 6 months and threats of legal action to get my £2,500 back off Sovereign after THEY cancelled my holiday last year.
 
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On the radio last night there was a woman saying she's scared for life to go back to normal, I couldn't believe my ears because I can't even comprehend that, and felt really sorry for her.

I'm anxious about going back to the office.
 
Apparently Simon Calder has just been on the TV encouraging people to book their foreign holidays. Saying (in terms) don't worry, it will all be fine and if there's a problem you can cancel and get your money back in 2 weeks.

How fucking irresponsible when this goes dead against current government advice.

The reality is who knows what/whether restrictions are going to be lifted and it is very far from "it will all be fine". And so much for the law about giving money back - it took me 6 months and threats of legal action to get my £2,500 back off Sovereign after THEY cancelled my holiday last year.
Just seen that, he's an annoying fucker at the best of times.
 
Several of us said we would be in a much better place by around Easter and that looks like being the case. We have had a fair amount of positive news in recent days including the 100% effectiveness (currently) of the Oxford / AZ vaccine against serious illness and the record number of vaccinations. In addition to the reductions in U.K. deaths and hospitalisations and being closer to restrictions starting to be eased.
Yeah, it wasn't aimed at the majority who post on this thread. I just saw those last few posts and thought they were too far entrenched in either camp.

Totally agree on what you've said there. I think we're closer to coming out of this than a lot of other countries due mainly to the incredible vaccine rollout and the effectiveness so far of those vaccines.
 
Why even think that way when there has been no suggestion this could ever happen, very odd.
It’s not “thinking that way”. It’s possible. We need to be cautious until the rest of the world has caught up on vaccines, to try to limit the spread of the virus and hope in the meantime that the vaccines continue to work.
 
Apparently Simon Calder has just been on the TV encouraging people to book their foreign holidays. Saying (in terms) don't worry, it will all be fine and if there's a problem you can cancel and get your money back in 2 weeks.

How fucking irresponsible when this goes dead against current government advice.

The reality is who knows what/whether restrictions are going to be lifted and it is very far from "it will all be fine". And so much for the law about giving money back - it took me 6 months and threats of legal action to get my £2,500 back off Sovereign after THEY cancelled my holiday last year.
Simon Calder is a fucking plank who shouldn’t be given airtime.
 
Have to say I find this hard to believe, 30 million doses is more than we have given already?


Trying to confirm but to my knowledge the Italian Catalent site isn't part of the supply chain for the UK. Market authorisation may have been updated since I last saw it though!

I'd wager...fake news.
 
Why make compulsory something that isn’t 100% effective ?

Because it reduces the risk of other people dying.

Many things are compulsory without being 100% effective against the risks they mitigate.

Speed limits
Seatbelts
Building regulations
Airport security scanners
etc etc etc

Indeed, almost nothing is 100% effective
 
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