Political relations between UK-EU

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Pablo1 said:
Everybody was given ample time to sort their residencias out here in Spain.
The fact they continued to either ignore the warnings or sat reading British red tops that often gave duff info is on them.
They won’t be missed by and large, many have lived doing cash in hand jobs and contributed nothing to the system.
After everything settles down I think we will find we (in Spain) are much better off without them.
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I'd agree. Anyone with anything about them would have registered and been in a position to provide the required evidence. They will be in a great position as you would no doubt go on to get full residency.

The cash in hand types who have lived and worked out there off the grid will be fucked and they will have to come home or just live there as an illegal immigrant. The british press will still call them expats though as same rules don't apply.
 
west didsblue said:
No mention in that article about whether they voted for it but my guess is that the ones being caught out by the 3rd country rules are the Brexiteers who believed the Leave campaign lies about Brexit not affecting their status. I suspect most Remain voters were a little more aware of the potential problems and planned accordingly. The big downside is that the UK will now be flooded with moaning former ex-pats who will put further strain on services they haven't paid into for years. On the plus side there might be some properties in the Med going cheap.
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From what I have read paying in to services will be a shock to them. One of the reasons many couldn't apply for residence - no proof they had lived there for 20 years and that would lead to some awkward questions and back tax demands.........
 
bluethrunthru said:
From what I have read paying in to services will be a shock to them. One of the reasons many couldn't apply for residence - no proof they had lived there for 20 years and that would lead to some awkward questions and back tax demands.........
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Plus theres the sticky issue of criminal records here in the UK
 
bluethrunthru said:
From what I have read paying in to services will be a shock to them. One of the reasons many couldn't apply for residence - no proof they had lived there for 20 years and that would lead to some awkward questions and back tax demands.........
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Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Plus theres the sticky issue of criminal records here in the UK
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And no doubt these thickos would have voted to leave.
 
Looks like because he doesn't like Macron Johnson is about to let Eurostar go to the wall - clever - its HQ is in London - I am sure Shaun Bailey's mayoral campaign will get a boost from that.

Losing Eurostar will be a fitting emblem for the shit stained legacy of this Govt only 4 months in to its time.....
 
Gaudion M said:
And no doubt these thickos would have voted to leave.
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Remember our Brexit Ultra's wouldn't have agreed with that - none of them were thick and they all knew what they voted for and despite repeatedly being told what they wanted was undeliverable they yelled Project Fear and said Remain didn't know what they were on about,
 
west didsblue said:
No mention in that article about whether they voted for it but my guess is that the ones being caught out by the 3rd country rules are the Brexiteers who believed the Leave campaign lies about Brexit not affecting their status. I suspect most Remain voters were a little more aware of the potential problems and planned accordingly. The big downside is that the UK will now be flooded with moaning former ex-pats who will put further strain on services they haven't paid into for years. On the plus side there might be some properties in the Med going cheap.
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I suspect it’s more simplistic than that. Anyone with residency status is fine, protected. Just like EU citizens who registered correctly here are protected. I believe about 330k British people were officially resident in Spain as of last year but It was suspected the true number was nearer 1m. That’s 660k desperately trying to play by the rules at the same time.

There is probably a “moral of the story” in there somewhere.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Looks like because he doesn't like Macron Johnson is about to let Eurostar go to the wall - clever - its HQ is in London - I am sure Shaun Bailey's mayoral campaign will get a boost from that.

Losing Eurostar will be a fitting emblem for the shit stained legacy of this Govt only 4 months in to its time.....
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As much as we'd all like to forget 2020, I think it's a year and 4 months...
 
the gammon are all over this - personalising it and making it into a Johnson vs macron thing - what the pricks fail to grasp is its majority shareholder is France - Johnson lets it collapse the majority shareholder takes over and appoints SNCF or DB to run the trains they get all the profits and its UK HQ is closed costing us jobs - those will be replaced at its new HQ in Paris.

 
bluethrunthru said:
the gammon are all over this - personalising it and making it into a Johnson vs macron thing - what the pricks fail to grasp is its majority shareholder is France - Johnson lets it collapse the majority shareholder takes over and appoints SNCF or DB to run the trains they get all the profits and its UK HQ is closed costing us jobs - those will be replaced at its new HQ in Paris.

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And all this going on when the urgency of decarbonisation means we need to shift more passengers onto long distance high speed rail. Meanwhile the UK government bailed out airlines and carmakers to the tune of literally billions of pounds last year.
 
bluethrunthru said:
and so it goes on - wankers moaning nobody told them....... papers referring to "new rules" - there are no new rules - just THE RULES which now apply to 3rd country citizens. You put off paying the bill your gas gets cut off. You put off applying for leave to stay you have to leave - inactions have consequences too

www.mirror.co.uk

Brit expats and homeowners 'screwed over' by Brexit as retirement dreams dashed

EXCLUSIVE: Hard-working Brits who dreamed of a retirement dividing their lives between the UK and Europe say their plans are in ruins - with one pensioner forced to move home after 20 years in Spain
www.mirror.co.uk www.mirror.co.uk
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Unbeleivable.
 
Pablo1 said:
Everybody was given ample time to sort their residencias out here in Spain.
The fact they continued to either ignore the warnings or sat reading British red tops that often gave duff info is on them.
They won’t be missed by and large, many have lived doing cash in hand jobs and contributed nothing to the system.
After everything settles down I think we will find we (in Spain) are much better off without them.
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Even before Brexit we had to show €16k earnings before we were given our NIE’s. What’s coming out seems to be people that wouldn't have been entitled to be residents here but stayed anyway because they’re British and really fucking important and above the rules.
 
KPXBLN said:
And all this going on when the urgency of decarbonisation means we need to shift more passengers onto long distance high speed rail. Meanwhile the UK government bailed out airlines and carmakers to the tune of literally billions of pounds last year.
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That would need strategy and planning ....Some long term thinking and innovation ... oh wait .... the Conservatives are in power aren't they? So thats not going to happen
 
bluethrunthru said:
Looks like because he doesn't like Macron Johnson is about to let Eurostar go to the wall - clever - its HQ is in London - I am sure Shaun Bailey's mayoral campaign will get a boost from that.

Losing Eurostar will be a fitting emblem for the shit stained legacy of this Govt only 4 months in to its time.....
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Why exactly should the UK taxpayer bail at Eurostar? The French government has a 55% stake in it, the UK government has 0%.

I’m already assuming your argument is based on the fact it has headquarters here, which isn’t actually an argument at all. Should we bail out every company that is headquartered here however unviable or poorly run?

I’m also unsure what it has to do with UK-EU relations. Apart from them tending to frown on state aid. But then when have the French actually give a fuck about EU rules when they don’t suit them?
 
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