bluethrunthru
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all it was about was the mythical sovereignty ..... as it works out the level of control they imagined it would bring was equally as mythical - kinda standard with a myth
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all it was about was the mythical sovereignty ..... as it works out the level of control they imagined it would bring was equally as mythical - kinda standard with a myth
East Level 2
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No, they are busy walking their unicorns on the sunlit uplands.
The Light Was Yellow Sir
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The tiny number will, of course, be lining their pockets to an extraordinary degree. The laugh is, with the pandemic arriving, they didn’t actually need to leave the EU to achieve their economic goals, as the Chinese have done it for them.....
bluethrunthru
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Brexit vote sparked surge in Irish passports issued in Great Britain
Figures show more than 420,000 applications were made from 2016-2020
www.theguardian.com
Gosh, the "faith" that Brexit would treble the size of the UK fishing industry ...June Mummery now
Brexit POLL: Has Boris 'surrendered' the UK's fishing waters to EU?
BORIS JOHNSON faced the wrath of fishermen up and down the country when he announced the terms of his post-Brexit trade deal with the EU, and campaigners are still fighting for the industry they say he "sacrificed". Do you think his deal effectively surrenders UK waters to Brussels? Vote below.www.express.co.uk
June Mummery then
Brexiteer Tells James O'Brien To Stop Giving Her Facts During Argument | LBC
This Brexiteer stopped in the middle of an argument with James O'Brien to ask him to stop quoting facts at her.www.lbc.co.uk
bluethrunthru
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On todays " A Place In The Sun" excited Spanish couples buy 4 bedroom villas with a pool recently vacated by British illegal immigrants for 1000 euros
Zuriblue
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Meanwhile on Channel 5 our new series "A place in the shit" where sunburnt Brexiters forced back from Spain look round grotty English flats with the rain pissing down outside with faces like thunder.
bluethrunthru
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but just think of all the flags they will be able to see from their window vista - spirits will soar as they wait to find out what UC will be offering them
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A fairly typical story of Brexit and the obstacles that it raises in a small trading sector. There are a lot of these examples and the common theme is the loss of freedom for people and the fact this loss of freedom is self inflicted.
The other theme is people in these sectors demanding Govt ‘do something’. Yet we opted to leave and not be bound by common rules so what do people expect the Govt to do? Helping UK citizens or UK trade is not the Govt‘s mandate. It’s an authoritarian Govt that prioritises pure nationalist sovereignty over everything else. You get what you vote for.
www.theguardian.com
The other theme is people in these sectors demanding Govt ‘do something’. Yet we opted to leave and not be bound by common rules so what do people expect the Govt to do? Helping UK citizens or UK trade is not the Govt‘s mandate. It’s an authoritarian Govt that prioritises pure nationalist sovereignty over everything else. You get what you vote for.
Small-time dealers fear Brexit could decimate antiques trade in UK
Sector faces ‘logistical minefield’ of customs declarations and VAT codes as stores an markets prepare to reopen
www.theguardian.com
bluethrunthru
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A fairly typical story of Brexit and the obstacles that it raises in a small trading sector. There are a lot of these examples and the common theme is the loss of freedom for people and the fact this loss of freedom is self inflicted.
The other theme is people in these sectors demanding Govt ‘do something’. Yet we opted to leave and not be bound by common rules so what do people expect the Govt to do? Helping UK citizens or UK trade is not the Govt‘s mandate. It’s an authoritarian Govt that prioritises pure nationalist sovereignty over everything else. You get what you vote for.
Small-time dealers fear Brexit could decimate antiques trade in UK
Sector faces ‘logistical minefield’ of customs declarations and VAT codes as stores an markets prepare to reopen
These people lack faith and belief - being British that is all we need to get through this. Well its not really - what we need is a Govt who can face up to and admit its failings and then act to make things better - not like this lot can do that they are more the faith and belief end of things rather than actually doing anything.
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I worked with the Department for International Trade for over fifteen years. The lads and lassies on the front line giving advice to small businesses are utterly stymied, every one of them knows this is a fuck up, yet they're forced to hand out bullshit leaflets with headings like....A fairly typical story of Brexit and the obstacles that it raises in a small trading sector. There are a lot of these examples and the common theme is the loss of freedom for people and the fact this loss of freedom is self inflicted.
The other theme is people in these sectors demanding Govt ‘do something’. Yet we opted to leave and not be bound by common rules so what do people expect the Govt to do? Helping UK citizens or UK trade is not the Govt‘s mandate. It’s an authoritarian Govt that prioritises pure nationalist sovereignty over everything else. You get what you vote for.
Small-time dealers fear Brexit could decimate antiques trade in UK
Sector faces ‘logistical minefield’ of customs declarations and VAT codes as stores an markets prepare to reopen
Take Advantage of New Global Opportunities.
There's nothing new about these opportunities, they were there before. The EU wasn't stopping British Business selling to Mexico, or Indonesia. The Germans have been selling successfully far and wide for a very long time.
The real message is simple, Europe is gone.
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Not sure I agree with this, the government knows this is a disaster. There are a handful of fruit loop leavers on the back benches that's true, but the cabinet are mostly gangsters, led by a gangster, they know they're lying.
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bluethrunthru
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my tongue was firmly embedded in my cheek when I typed it lol
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Your last line sums it up.
Len Rum
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This is of course true.
The 'Global' opportunities in trade outside of the EU have always been there.
EU membership did not prevent us taking advantage of such opportunities.
The 'dark' thinking behind trade post Brexit ( largely unspoken) has always been that we will be forced by necessity to compete in these 'new' markets.
But if not it doesn't really matter to the gangster Tories.
The deterioration in the economy won't become immediately obvious and under cover of Covid and blame gaming ( always of course with a compliant media) the Tory mafia will stay in power and that's all that matters really.
bluethrunthru
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Joe is deluding himself. Plenty of people told him and plenty of info was available on line. Joe chose to at best ignore it or not bother at worst dismiss it as Project fear.
"Brexit itself, when it was first started, was going to be brilliant because I honestly believe that Britain should stay Britain and we run by ourselves," says Joe. But he had no idea of how Brexit was to impact his dream of retiring abroad.
"Nobody explained or probably thought about people like ourselves. There was nobody looking after it or telling us, they forgot about the people abroad."
If he could vote again in the Brexit referendum, Joe says he'd vote differently knowing how things turned out.
"There's no way I would vote to go for it, because it's harming me and my future, what I want to do with what time we have left, me and my wife together, in this sort of surroundings."
The slim hope he has of this would be on a reciprocal basis with the EU
Now, he hopes to see a future in which UK travellers are allowed to stay in European countries for at least 180 days without a visa
newseu.cgtn.com
"Brexit itself, when it was first started, was going to be brilliant because I honestly believe that Britain should stay Britain and we run by ourselves," says Joe. But he had no idea of how Brexit was to impact his dream of retiring abroad.
"Nobody explained or probably thought about people like ourselves. There was nobody looking after it or telling us, they forgot about the people abroad."
If he could vote again in the Brexit referendum, Joe says he'd vote differently knowing how things turned out.
"There's no way I would vote to go for it, because it's harming me and my future, what I want to do with what time we have left, me and my wife together, in this sort of surroundings."
The slim hope he has of this would be on a reciprocal basis with the EU
Now, he hopes to see a future in which UK travellers are allowed to stay in European countries for at least 180 days without a visa
'Harming me and my future': How Brexit is crushing UK pensioners' dreams of retiring abroad
In 2016, Joe thought Brexit was a great idea. But he soon realized his dream of retiring in Spain was going be limited by his new status as a non-EU citizen.
newseu.cgtn.com
bluethrunthru
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from artisan chocolatiers to your local fixer upper spanner monkey is hitting every corner of the UK economy - even if/when they learn to cope the increased costs and delayed delivery times will remain. This is why the Brexit Ultra's are nowhere to be seen
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Is there no one left to tell us it’s all teething problems and it’ll be fine in 30 years?
Ifwecouldjust.......
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Not on this thread .... they pop up on other threads but for some reason seem to be avoiding this one. Their faith in the Tory Party (despite this f@ck up) remains undiminished.