Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Blue and still suffering said:
The Mail website is asking Are cases on the rise again. Once again sensationalising (is that a word?) rather than looking at the details behind the figures as HP has done.
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The U.K. government in 2019 was the 30th highest spender on media advertising. In 2020 it’s number 1 with a spend of close to £200M. I think that goes someway to explaining the media’s lack of scrutiny of this government as there’s no value in biting the hand that’s currently feeding them.
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
A good day with stuff opening but still 3 months off a lot of the population getting 1 jab and over 40s not done.
Can't help that this could set things back but you can't keep stuff closed forever.
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32 million by 15th April was the goverments target, and we hit it yesterday I believe. Ahead of schedule despite a dip in vaccine supply. All over 50'S have been offered jab, it's up to them to book in and get it.

Your in the next category (same as my wife) so I'd bet my bottom dollar you'll be contacted in the next 4-6 weeks.
I'm 40 in May so will probably get to book it almost straight away if I've not already been offered it by then.

Don't forget in all this forecasting (to offer all 1st doses by end of July), they are not overcommitting. If they get Moderna and Novarax on stream, they'll hit the big league and be able to ramp up second doses and of course kids jabs after that.
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
A good day with stuff opening but still 3 months off a lot of the population getting 1 jab and over 40s not done.
Can't help that this could set things back but you can't keep stuff closed forever.
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The merchant of doom is having his weekly downer
 
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Chappie said:
The merchant of doom is having his weekly downer
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I shall cheer up the forum then - I get my second jab this Thursday at LIttleborough Sports Hall! We seem to have things sorted out in Littleborough. i reckon if Pep sends the strikers down in the afternoon I could give 'em a few tips on how to thread the ball through an eleven man defence and into the oppo net!
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
Its a forum
I'm entitled to my opinion
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Agreed. No-one needs to get on your back. We all have different things to deal with. Outside factors can change the way you think/perceive things. For example, the mindset of a person that's worked all the way through lockdown, saved a wad of cash and family have stayed healthy, and doesn't mind when a jab comes because he's just happy to be patient, might be the opposite of someone who's lost a job, lost a parent, felt depressed because they don't have a network of support and is feeling mental/physical effects of lockdown.

Let's all be as kind to each other as possible despite difference in opinion.
 
paulchapo said:
Like their sports coverage, or lack of it in our case unless it's negative, I try and avoid the media for any other stuff too. I'm against censorship but if this coverage was happening in wartime they'd have been hanged alongside bloody Lord Haw Haw.

Screaming for everywhere to open up and within hours of some places opening crying cases might be on the rise again. We've got to live with this and get on with our lives so I wish they would just STFU!
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They do it to gain clicks, cover both sides to gain maximum effect. That's why the sports pages are full of positive rags and dipper stories and negative ones on us.
Every paper is the same irrespective of which side of the political divide they are on. Also bad news is more profitable tHan good news.
 
Manchester1894 said:
Agreed. No-one needs to get on your back. We all have different things to deal with. Outside factors can change the way you think/perceive things. For example, the mindset of a person that's worked all the way through lockdown, saved a wad of cash and family have stayed healthy, and doesn't mind when a jab comes because he's just happy to be patient, might be the opposite of someone who's lost a job, lost a parent, felt depressed because they don't have a network of support and is feeling mental/physical effects of lockdown.

Let's all be as kind to each other as possible despite difference in opinion.
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Its fine
Don't give a fuck what people say to be honest (not referring to you)
Been through shit last few years but I'm still here
But people just carry on with their own lives oblivious to the suffering of others.
Not everyone is married with kids and still have their parents.
I have none of these, and I'm only 45.
I don't want sympathy just making a point that some people struggle more than others.
 
Greater Manchester scoreboard

218 cases today - up 92 on yesterday. And also up 36 on last week, First week to week rise in a while.

Though these numbers contain many old cases back as far as January and not just the past week or so data added together. So tomorrow may be bring a reassessment.

Tbh it is really a bit of a mess how they are handling all these tests and then the negative tests that often follow and negate cases already counted. I suspect this is another historic catch up of that issue 'resolved' last Friday we thought with a huge cut of wrongly counted positive cases. Over 8000 in England. But now here are another set from weeks ago of over 1000 it is believed which are added back on.

Hard to know tonight as the regional scores have not been updated other than for West Midlands - up 190 to 311 and South West up 202 from yesterday's quite absurd and unlikely to be real low score of 2 up to 204.

After doing the last two alphabetically they seem to have decided to stop as something was not exactly right !

Perhaps to think about what to do next in the morning.

But looking at those two you would imagine that had they carried on then North West would have risen to around 400 - 500 today matching the pro rata GM rise. And that kind of number is what they cases they have posted from the towns suggests.

Anyhow as it stands (which may or may not be for long!) :-



Manchester top scores on 60 which is up from 31 wk to wk

Wigan second highest on 34 which is also up - from 14 - last week

Oldham had 21 which is up from 13 last week.

Salford also scores 21 - up from 17 last week.

Stockport is on 19 - which is at least down from 22 last week

Rochdale has 17 cases - which is up from 14 last week

But Tameside on 15 is down week to week from 21.

Trafford one less on 14 is unfortunately up 1 on last week.

But Bolton with 10 is well down week to week - a fall of 14.

But NOT the lowest today.

Bury regains that top spot on 7 which is down from 13 last week .

So Bolton, Bury, Tameside and Stockport as it stands had good days.

The rest may be awaiting the steward's enquiry.
 
GM Weekly Pop Scores after today:~

Borough / Score Today / Score 7 days ago / up or down wk to wk/ Testing is % of local population who have tested positive for Covid over past year.

As ever with Pop scores going up is bad, going down good - the higher the number the better or worse depending on direction moving. The Pop Score is total cases in past week versus 100,000 POPulation to even out the comparison versus size and expected cases based on numbers living there.


Oldham 49 / 69 Down 20 Testing positive 9.7%

Manchester 46 / 70 / Down 24 Testing positive 9.5%

Rochdale 45 / 73 / Down 28 Testing positive 9.5%

Bolton 32 / 70 / Down 38 Testing positive 9.0%

Wigan 32 / 56 / Down 24 Testing positive 8.8%

Salford 27 / 55 / Down 28 Testing positive 8.9%

Stockport 24 / 56 / Down 32 Testing positive 7.1%

Tameside 19 / 77 / Down 58 Testing positive 8.1%

Trafford 19 / 52 / Down 33 Testing positive 6.9%

Bury 13 / 54 / Down 41 Testing positive 9.0%




Even better numbers for much of GM until the coming readjustment occurs!

Bury has the lowest GM Pop score I ever recall. And every borough under 50 is new to me as well.



Weekly cases:- Quite a scrap for lowest cases but best to wait until after the readjustment is corrected next Friday and the minus numbers no longer feature in the weekly totals as they currently distort things a little.

Even so with six of the boroughs under 100 and two others single figures away from being so these numbers are very very good compared to even a few weeks ago.

Bury at 26 is an average of under 4 a day! But that is caused by the minus number and will go up once that is out of the equation next weekend. Similarly for some of the other low scores that will adjust up maybe 10 or 20.

Bury 26, Trafford 44, Tameside 44, Salford 70, Stockport 71, Bolton 93, Rochdale 100, Wigan 107 Oldham 117 and Manchester 220
 
HOSPITAL DATA


Good drop in England the the UK over the weekend. Admissions too falling a little. UK now just over 2500 patients in hospital with Covid when it was nearly 40,000 in January. And closing in on sub 2000 in England any day now. Ventilators sub 400 in both England and UK. With dates when numbers were lower slipping back now into late September.

North West also had the best weekend with good falls in patients and ventilators

Now places are opening up the next week or so will tell us a lot about whether that increases cases or both cases and hospital numbers. Hopefully not the latter.





UK total:


Patients down to 2555 - it was 39, 248 at the peak on 18 Jan - (fall of 36, 693 in 84 days) :- lowest since 30 September

Ventilators down to 379 it was 4077 at the peak on 24 Jan - (fall of 3698 in 78 days) : lowest since 4 October


England only:-


ADMISSIONS:-

151 Covid admissions (10 April) following 167, 167, 189, 183, 188, 156, 179 in the week before.



PATIENTS:-

Patients down over weekend by 213 to 2108 v 2680 last week :- lowest since 1 October.

Peak was 34, 336 on 18 Jan (fall 32, 228 in 84 days)

Ventilators: down 25 to 337 v 416 last week :- lowest since 5 October

Peak was 3736 on 24 Jan (fall 3399 in 78 days)



Regions:



Patient // Ventilators // change in past day to today and v last week

Numbers today only are for over the 3 day weekend and v last Monday


East down 5 to 189 v 200 // UP 1 to 25 v 32

London down 41 to 520 v 636 // down 7 to 111 v 129

Midlands down 33 to 431 v 530 // down 2 to 72 v 82

NE & Yorks down 30 to 399 v 478 // down 1 to 61 v 65

North West down 71 to 351 v 507 // down 11 to 45 v 64

South East down 20 to 152 v 221// down 3 to 20 v 28

South West down 13 to 66 v 108 // UP 3 to 9 v 12`
 
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BLUEMATT23 said:
Its fine
Don't give a fuck what people say to be honest (not referring to you)
Been through shit last few years but I'm still here
But people just carry on with their own lives oblivious to the suffering of others.
Not everyone is married with kids and still have their parents.
I have none of these, and I'm only 45.
I don't want sympathy just making a point that some people struggle more than others.
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Your a blue amongst blues. If it helps you to vent on here then vent away. You are one of us mate.
 
Not sure I understand why the distancing aspect is glossed over when it comes to hospitality. Rule of 6 seems to be applied with no distancing.
Guidance says maintain distance but law only prevents more than 6 being together.
result = 6 different households mixing.
 
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