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Mate there is fuck all we can do about it - if it works it works and i am sure it will.
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Mate there is fuck all we can do about it - if it works it works and i am sure it will.
There was no new positive me! I've always been the same. My mood will shift depending on what we know, which I guess is entirely normal.
They will just give it to them and if it works then great.
Also given what we've heard about the vaccine efficacy vs. UK and South African variants being enough to stop almost all serious illness I'm not sure how many people are going to be ill enough to need antibodies.
Antibodies are going to be important until everyone is vaccinated, after that there shouldn't be huge demand for them (and newer ones should have been approved to specifically target the variants).
ayrshire_blue
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Don't really understand the need for condescension, but you do you. I was suggesting that we done everything within our power to limit the chance of that mutation happening. Just like the pandemic didn't initially take hold in this country by "magic", there are steps we could have taken to limit the consequences.
Yeah I thought that, but then I read it was expensive so thought they might be a bit reluctant! Maybe not though.
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The Kent varriant is more transmissable than the SA variant so the SA variant is unlikely to take off till herd immunity starts to impact variant evolutionary selection.The critical thing that these people always miss is transmissibility is totally irrelevant. No-one cares about transmissibility from a healthcare perspective. The virus version of the common cold is quite transmissible but no-one really cares about that because it is a mild infection.
What is missing in the data for these recent variants is the evidence of changes that will lead to an increase in moderate to severe COVID (and mortality). For all we know they may decrease mortality which would actually be a very welcome variant!
It's just highly unlikely that a vaccine evading strain will emerge whilst a vaccinated population doesn't exist. Vaccine evading strains can only become selected because of the impact of vaccines. Until then the virus remains novel and will tear through unvaccinated populations as it did before until it encounters immune systems that are already prepared for it. It is here that selective mutations occur that may cause problems for the vaccine.
The Moderna vaccine has recently gone through trials assessing efficacy against the UK strain and it was found to be 85% effective. I really wouldn't worry, almost everything you read on strains even from doctors and epidemiologist is for now speculative and lacking in evidence.
The evidence so far from the larger vaccinated populations in Israel and clinical trials is the vaccines we have available are extremely effective and almost unbelievably effective actually.
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yep, there's no guarantees at all, it could go all manor of directions. mutations are by there very nature unpredictable. Long term viruses do tend to go the less deadly route but how many more deadly mutations happen along the route is anyones guess.
Sat back at home now with oxygen tanks around the house, another great service provided by the NHS.
Spoke to my Dad this morning who was taken in last night, he seems to be doing a lot better so I’m hopeful he’ll be home tomorrow.
The respiratory ward has already called me twice this morning to check on my stats and to make sure everything is working properly. Can’t wait to get improved.
Stay safe all
Spoke to my Dad this morning who was taken in last night, he seems to be doing a lot better so I’m hopeful he’ll be home tomorrow.
The respiratory ward has already called me twice this morning to check on my stats and to make sure everything is working properly. Can’t wait to get improved.
Stay safe all
Lovely news. Happy for you mate!
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