The Super League | FA + PL: New Charter & Fines | UEFA: Settlement

[SidJames]

must admit i have had a bit of a chuckle at UEFA,wonder if this SL nonsense would have had more support during the investigations i think it would have done

This is me.

UEFA had it coming.

But i am not only a City fan,but also a Football fan.I want the Newcastle's,and Evertons,Leeds of this World to have their day in the Sun.

FFP killed their chance of that,they shut the Door after us.Now they are lifting the drawbridge.

Some Clubs might eventually cease to exist, if this all goes through..

I was always proud that my Club was a true working Mans Club,in every sense of the word.

I feel like we should be making a stand.

Rags,Arsenal, Spurs, etc have always been the playgrounds for the Nouveau Rich and their corporate friends.

You want real ground roots, local history then City has it in Buckets.

History isn't just judged in Silver like Pep thinks.

History is having real ties with the people of Manchester.Being the only Manchester Club.Having fans that never cease to amaze,averaging 30,0000 + in second division games.Filling the ground out even when we were shit,refusing to fuck off and die. Thats why they hated us.They hated us because they secretly admired us.

 

[DAGW]

This is me.

UEFA had it coming.

But i am not only a City fan,but a Football fan.I want the Newcastle's,and Evertons,Leeds etc to have their day in the Sun.

FFP killed their chance of that,they shut the Door after us.Now they are lifting the drawbridge.

Some Clubs might eventually cease to exist if thi all goes through..

I was always proud that my Club was a true working Mans Club,in every sense of the word.

I feel like we should be making a stand.

Rags,Arsenal, Spurs etc have always been the playgrounds for the Nouveau Rich and their corporate friends.

You want real ground routes local history then City has it in Buckets.

History isn't just judged by Silver like Pep thinks.

History is having real ties with the people of Manchester.Being the only Manchester Club.Having fans that never cease to amaze,averaging 30,0000 + in second division games.Filling the ground out even when we were shit,refusing to fuck off and die. Thats why they hated us.They hated us because they secretly admired us.

Tough to admire now sadly.

 

[SidJames]

It really is sinking in that MCFC died years ago, everything that made me a City fan and I don't know what it is it was just me, has gone we are now Rags.

What a horrible thought that is.

Staring in the Mirror and seeing yourself in a Rag shirt staring back.

Becoming what you hate most.

 

[JGL07]

I no longer support manchester city football club

Did you ever?

 

[Sam W]

The founding members have their places guaranteed - there is effectively very little for the other PL teams to play for.

But they wouldn't have their Premier League places guaranteed. So they'll need to make a deal..

Might mean the end of UEFA but hey ho.

 

[Shirley]

Yank owners monetizing their huge global fan base.

 

[RobinHood]

Of course they back it. Them, Arsenal, Spuds, AC Milan etc will be secretly loving it. They just got a huge pile of cash and access to a competition they don't have to earn their way into or get relegated from. They are total winners in this scenario. They bought their way back into relevance.

Hmmm. Will they be relevant?

 

[Grealish’s Shinpads]

The positive part of me is hoping that UEFA will come to an agreement of sorts with these clubs and reform the Champions League in a way that would make it similar to this proposed ESL format. Hopefully qualification would still be achieved on merit rather than standing though.

The clubs want a bigger slice of the cake which is understandable. Ultimately, this is all about money.

I can’t see the top teams participating in their domestic cup competitions with this thing going on though.

 

[SidJames]

So hypothetically does this sort itself out if the 6 founding clubs make a deal the Premier League that the places in the Super League each season go to the clubs finishing in the top domestic places (for instance top 4 plus the two domestic cup winners).

Likely to be the only way the Premier League would agree.

Other countries founding teams make their own domestic deals.

UEFA and associated corruption cut out of the deal.

Founding teams retain Super League voting rights.

Competion expandable globally to clubs outwith Europe if founding teams agree.

Just a thought.

Not sure how that would work tbh.

I think the "Founding members" are untouchable.Are permanent members of the Super League.

A bit fucked up really,if this is true.

Makes the Premier League top 6 race irrelevant.Destroys the brand.

Sky/BT are not going to want to pay hundreds millions for a damaged product that has lost all intrinsic value.

The revised TV Deal will deny every other Club revenue,slashing it.

 

[idahoblues]

Like a punch to the gut, innit.

Rugby? F1? NFL? Guess I'd better choose.

Take up fishing mate

 

[idahoblues]

Yank owners monetizing their huge global fan base.

Alas, I fear you’re right

 

[TFC]

Stadiums will be empty for these games because actual fans won't give a fuck but we're already conditioned to that. Perfect timing for these cunts.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

Stadiums will be empty for these games because actual fans won't give a fuck but we're already conditioned to that. Perfect timing for these cunts.

They will be able to afford to let everyone in for free and make a mint flogging beers and hot dogs

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

The positive part of me is hoping that UEFA will come to an agreement of sorts with these clubs and reform the Champions League in a way that would make it similar to this proposed ESL format. Hopefully qualification would still be achieved on merit rather than standing though.

The clubs want a bigger slice of the cake which is understandable. Ultimately, this is all about money.

I can’t see the top teams participating in their domestic cup competitions with this thing going on though.

The entire point of the SL is that qualification doesn’t take place on merit — today’s merits at any rate. The. Entire. Point.

 

[I'm Blue]

Take up fishing mate

I’ll give it a go..

 

[I'm Blue]

I like the idea.
Fuck everyone else ; )

 

[PrezIke]

I have a question?

Has anyone considered how this is REALLY happening because COVID is revealing how whilst FFP got City under financial control prior to COVID IT FAILED to put under control the older "cartel" clubs that could operate with heavy debts, no need for success, riding the coat tails of past success (or were left in the dust: See Serie A for mismanagement and other factors) and therefore had less pressure to mange their clubs better, leading to spending ridiculous amounts of money and were poorly managed for many years that was already appearing JUST before COVID??

I won't deny City, Chelsea and PSG spending was a factor, but that was because you had to spend to get a foot in the door to compete really as you are competing against Goliath clubs with mega global fan bases, young players all wanting to play for them, etc.

It's little wonder this is coming from Real Madrid because they are one of the prime culprits as are almost all who are joining.

We are culpable, of course, and this is neoliberal capitalism revealing its core to us all right in plain daylight.

Also...

This is also why the chest thumping about City and PSG as the evil ones to focus on ignoring other signs that hoards of fans and journalists have focused on I’ve been arguing has been short sided.

I've argued this on Twitter with some well known critics (Miguel Delaney and Barnay Ronay before) when I contented what was happening with City and UEFA/"the cartel"/PSG not getting hit for FFP the 2nd time around...

In all these instances and what you saw other big clubs and their apologists were doing all to maintain power/wealth, or find ways to enhance it which are all really just sad examples of neoliberal capitalism that you could see in ALL of these big clubs nature, yet this was framed as "whataboutary" whilst some acted like clubs they support were holier than thou, and others (journos inlcluded) turned a fairly blind eye to this until now.

Well. The chickens are coming home to roost now.

 

[jrb]

UEFA FFP.

 

[red 2 hats]

For the first time since the takeover I feel let down by our owners.
By agreeing to be founding members of this shit show, I feel betrayed, they have turned us into everything that I hated about the rags, the victims, the arse, the lot.
We have turned our backs on the football we knew and loved growing up, we've let down the other 86 clubs in our professional game plus hundreds of grass roots clubs, we've sold out and I feel sick to the stomach, we've jumped into bed with clubs who despise us and did their utmost to ruin us.
If this goes through, like they say on dragons den, I'm out, I want no part of it.
What a sad day for football, greed is good and fuck the rest.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

Sky/BT are not going to want to pay hundreds millions for a damaged product that has lost all intrinsic value.

The revised TV Deal will deny every other Club revenue,slashing it.

This.
It's the similar point raised every time that non starter of an idea that the Old Firm should join the PL - that the SPL gets peanuts from TV revenue as it is. Take them out of the equation and the remaining clubs will get even less than peanuts as the "product" has now just lost the 2 most valuable (some may say the only valuable product) that they had.