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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%

  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%
  • Total voters
    2,063
racecar said:
It’s not. It’s money. Real, Barca, Atletico, Juve, City and Chelsea qualify almost every single year anyway. I genuinely think that if UEFA offered an oil branch of sorts financially whilst keeping the competitive integrity of the competition by ensuring that clubs would have to qualify on merit these clubs would agree.

The closed shop aspect will have no doubt been pushed by the American owners of United, Arsenal and to a lesser extent Liverpool, as the competition for CL football is too fierce in the PL. 4 spots for 6+ teams so there’s always a couple of “big” teams who will miss out.

Naturally it also suits Milan, Inter and Spurs but it will have been driven by the Americans.
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UEFA have accepted the proposal for a revised ECL which clubs qualify on historic criteria meaning that his season WHU and Leicester would get a place but Liverpool would
 
citymad said:
Would love for us to step away from this. Makes me feel sick that we're even mentioned with these teams. Good on the Germans and PSG for not taking part.
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Mate UEFA are not saints in this. That's the exact corrupt body we were fighting just months ago. Bundesliga and Ligue 1 not partaking just cements their power and influence over UEFA, they are not bothered and do not want to share their control with others. Money vs money really, we are the ultimate losers. One PR vs the other right now.
 
The thing that upsets me most about this, is every single one of those cunts tried to destroy use. Not just “beat” us, but actually destroy everything we were/are & will be.
They cheated, they smeared, they changed rule after rule to keep us back.

they treated the club with absolute contempt. The club I love, and have supported all my life.
And now they’ve decided to cozy up to these same people, to give them absolute power over us, and we don’t even have a member of the board for our interest. And we’re supposed to be on board with it.

part of me knows that football will survive, and the right hands will be greased, but still.

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Had an interesting conversation with someone I take a good deal of notice of.

The American owned clubs/Barca and Madrid don't have much say in this matter. They always say follow the money...

The power play is not by the clubs, but by the American banks that hold huge amounts of their debt.

Covid has accelerated the concerns of when United, Liverpool and Arsenal can start paying this down more quickly.

JP Morgan and others are essentially paying themselves, fronting the cash for the formation and knowing it is coming straight back to them to pay down those huge debt piles.

They have also made sure these revenue streams last long after the clubs have paid back their debts.

City and Chelsea were seemingly between a rock and hard place of what best served their own interests.
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As I said earlier in the thread, the Americans are very clearly behind all this.

Them getting involved in a sport they know fuck all about was a car crash in waiting.
 
andypandy said:
I feel for clubs like Villa and Everton both having recently had new owners. What the hell must they be thinking now.

Every genuine football fan, no matter who they support lives for an "Aguero moment or a Leicester dream.

Sadly it all changed when the European Cup became the Champions League and this is just an evolution of that. Self protection with the greedy needs and wants of the few outweighing everyone else.
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all that money invested in a new stadium and sponsor money along with TV will take a massive hit
 
razman said:


FFS
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As if their actions weren't evidence enough that they don't give two shits about the fans, here it is in black and white.

We've sleepwalked into a situation where it's not our club anymore. It's the rags in Blue, nothing more. Supporting this isn't supporting City, it's supporting corporate greed.
 
If the quarter finals had been this week, I’d be supporting Dortmund.

I hope their opposition is real and not politicking. We should be along side them.
 
I think it's Lose-Lose for City ... if all this falls on it's face and we're back to where we were in the PL and CL ... we're now linked with the red clubs and american owned clubs forever ... we're "them" now onwards ... and in CL we'd fall down even further down the order (PSG has played a blinder here and will become UEFA darlings alongside Bayern if all this rolls back) ...

And if it does go ahead and TSL is a success and we're part of it, the "legacy fans" would be far and few supporting the clubs and only "plastics" would be left supporting these ... and in that race we're not winning from the red and the spanish two ... and if the tv deals will be done on revenues by "new fans" (subscribers) etc. then we lose out there too and will be mid to bottom half of that table easily ...

I just can't get my head around what it was that pushed City to join in ... I posted early on, what an opportunity City had all day yesterday before this was announced to get ahead and take the lead and come out with a strong statement explaining what we have already been saying all this past decade, re: the greed of this cartel and how FFP was all designed to do exactly that and now that has not helped them stay ahead they have devised this new thing, even half as strong as that a statement and we'd be standing tall today ... and reds clubs being shown up for what they are ... it's just sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad state right now that we are now one of them ... and it's lose-lose whichever way it goes now.
 
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