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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%

  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%
  • Total voters
    2,063
People thinking this is just a bluff need to wake up - this is happening

No way that this is a bluff - the damage being caused each minute is irreversible

There is no longer a functioning relationship with any of the clubs involved and UEFA going forwards - unless those at board level at the clubs were removed - which wont happen

The next step in this will be getting a deal done with each prospective domestic league - and once we learn what revenue they will pocket from it then we will see is signed and sealed you watch
 
It is clear that football fans and most football clubs have been let down massively by those who were supposed to be the guardians of the game. From the start the PL was essentially a vehicle to escape the control firstly of the FL and then of the FA. Clubs such as Arsenal and Manchester United came to dominate the organs of the PL and its decision making. This proess was mirrored at UEFA, a governing body which realised the part TV and the expansion of the CL in increasing revenue exponentially. The price was simply giving in to those clubs in positions of dominance in the national leagues. They found allies in the G14 firstly and then, and increasingly, in the ECA, which has never, and which has never tried to, represent more than a handful of its members. The result is that the favoured few clubs spent themselves heavily into debt to maintain their position as serial winners. With varying degrees of success if we look at the positions of the 12 "founder members" in their domestic leagues. Many are hardly the biggest clubs in the world at the moment. And so we have arrived at a state of affairs where football has never been so popular but never have so many of its clubs have been in such peril. And then along came Covid!

The situation was ripe for a bank, in this case an American bank, to come along and realise that what football needs is a bale out pure and simple. And can football refuse? There will be ample to give Messi a new contract, to mend the roof at the swamp, to protect the Italians from the PL's TV deals and so on. And there will be guaranteed places in a super league!! For the other clubs there will be generous payments to keep creditors at bay - and these will take some refusing. Many will see this as solving many of football's problems. But it won't. It won't even try to tackle the most important. It will actually surrender in the face of them and give in to the successful, but now ailing, clubs of the 90s and noughties. Nothing is done to address the problem of competitive imbalance, which has been a problem since professional football began but which is now a fatal flaw. This is what happens when governing bodies don't even try to govern.
 
Honestly don't think I'd be as pissed off as I am if it wasn't a closed shop. If there were a chance for your Leicesters, Everton's and West Hams to have a bash at the expense of the worst performing teams from each country (Spurs, Arsenal ffs) at least that would keep it somewhat fresh.

I've thought the CL a busted flush for a long time, but fuck me this is not the answer. It'll get old really fucking quick.
 
Should we start a countdown to when Pep resigns? Pep is a football romantic. Can't imagine he will find the motivation to build a squad to win the ESL.
 
Tricky_Trev said:
You’re missing the point. WE are the ones telling the other clubs what they can and can’t play in. We cannot talk about the cartel clubs as a them and us thing any more. Manchester City are now a cartel club. We are everything that we were fighting against. The old cartel are not worse than City, City are cünts too.
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Absolutely true, but also the Old Cartel is a part of the New Cartel, and can still kick us from this a few years down the road, when we will already be banned from the "legacy football league". So for the big wigs at City this is equal parts risky and greedy.

Be careful what you wish for Ferran, Khaldoon et al.
 
Cityzen_89 said:
Resignations, contracts signed, club silence. The writing is on the wall.
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Yep. This is an ongoing coup, and at the very least United, Arsenal, Liverpool and the Spanish teams are not fucking about. That isn't letting us off the hook, and it doesn't mean the coup will be successful, but this isn't a power move, and if we've gone into thinking that's all it is then we are fucking naive.
 
TFC said:
Honestly don't think I'd be as pissed off as I am if it wasn't a closed shop. If there were a chance for your Leicesters, Everton's and West Hams to have a bash at the expense of the worst performing teams from each country (Spurs, Arsenal ffs) at least that would keep it somewhat fresh.

I've thought the CL a busted flush for a long time, but fuck me this is not the answer. It'll get old really fucking quick.
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Same here. Honestly wouldn't be that bothered by it if not for the closed shop aspect of it, but then again, being closed shop is a large part of it.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I'm honest enough to say yes for myself, whatever ridicule that admittedly entails, etc?

I only care about City, we do what serves our best interests, whether that be this or something else.

Nobody gave a shit when Bury went to the wall and nobody gave a shit about City when we were mocked.

I would rather be pragmatic, than be left behind, as I think football has been holding on to some romantic image that hasn't existed for three decades.

I don't like change, but I know I have to accept it, or things in life will move on without me, whether I like it or not.

I respect those opinions of those who have a wider love of the game, but I won't be turning my back on the club.
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Fair play to you for having that opinion mate.

My business head understands why, but my heart & my sporting principles can’t accept this are being the right thing to do.

Ive managed an amateur Saturday League team for the past 8 years & we’ve gone from a 3rd division team to runners up of the Lancashire & Cheshire Prem in the last 2 seasons that were completed before Covid, so my team could now be considered an ‘elite team’ in the league we play in. (Not that amateur football could ever be considered elite lol)

If there was a proposal to scrap relegation in my league, which would benefit my team, I’d vote against it.

It’s all about sporting merit for me, not about a closed shop to benefit my team.

Whichever way it goes, it’s a right shit show as the new CL proposals aren’t really much better!
 
Spare a thought for how Narthan Ake is feeling right now.

Injured most of the season, finally back in time to get into the Holland side, and now told he can't go..
 
chrisY said:
I'm curious, what will motivate the "established" top 6 in domestic competition if they are already guaranteed a european spot in the super league.
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The same as when there was no European competition and the same as when there was only 1 CL spot I’d imagine.
 
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