The Super League | FA + PL: New Charter & Fines | UEFA: Settlement

[lazerblue]

Sky and bt might die, silver linings and all

Oh kaz you've given me a semi

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

Fuck me they are totally out of touch aren't they, laughable.

Unsurprising. When was the last time he even attended a game? His focus is likely on his NFL team.

 

[nmc]

The only way to stop this is kicking out the clubs, that won't happen, that extra money will get us a worldie player, next season starts with the new super league, sky and bt will get involved the media will love it flying all over Europe for glamour fixtures the hype will over come the disgust, in a couple of seasons it will be the norm and the world will turn, if you don't want to follow city anymore don't care,welcome to the digital age we've just replaced you with 3 over seas fans thanks for your loyal support but xyz will spend money you won't , that's what will happen and there's fuck all as fans we can do about

Sad But true. In the US people support NFL clubs hundreds of miles away - franchising etc has all but destroyed any links between club and community.

 

[TFC]

What a bellend

 

[meltonblue]

In what way ?

Because it will devalue it due to some clubs no longer having to compete and gain a minimum level of domestic performance in order to gain access to European competition.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

How is a European Super League viable without a domestic competition?

20 clubs, including five TBD as permanent members once the SL figures out which current non-members can rake in the most fan interest/revenue.

Balanced schedule -- 57 matches -- one home, one away, one in a neutral (read: off-continent) venue.

Top 8 sides make the playoffs; from there, it's just like American sports to get to a final.

Plus there'd probably be a random draw Cup competition.

So figure 70-odd matches a season for the "best" of the sides which approximates what we play now across all competitions (I think).

 

[aguero93:20]

I'll just mod them back in. The rags will have nothing but players ranked 10 overall on 50 year contracts @10m per week though.

 

[SPIDERBOY]

I'd still struggle for an away ticket.

 

[marco]

fuck me post covid and all this we'l be lucky to see 20k in the Etihad

 

[Marvin]

What's the maths on this?

If the ESL would generate more revenue than the Champions League and the Premier League, or it's close then, then we had no choice (a Premier League, CL without Real Madrid and Barclona will collapse).

I think City will be hoping this collapses and will exit if they suspect it will not get off the ground.

 

[MCFC1993]

In what way ?

Where to start?

- ' Top 6' earning £300m more than the rest, probably more as the Premier League TV rights will suffer.
- 'Other 14' even less likely to keep hold of their top players as they're offered ludicrous contracts.
- Meaning-less games, if you're not top, you might as well finish 17th.
- Less competitiveness, less drama, less excitement, less match-going fans.

Leeds vs Liverpool tonight...1 fighting for the European conference league, 1 fighting for top 4 and premium European football, how would this game look next year? Liverpool wouldn't give a flying fuck if they got beat 8-0.

It affects the competitiveness of the league.

I don't even want to continue, it's quite obvious it's going to destroy the domestic league.

 

[kaz7]

UEFA president, Ceferin: "How can you see all your fans protesting and not care? I have had enough that football clubs are assets. They [clubs] want more and more and more...” [via
@sistoney67

You didnt care when we protested yer ****

 

[aguero93:20]

Last time Boris negotiated anything we ended up with the UK border in the Irish Sea.

He's great that lad Boris.

 

[BlueHammer85]

What's the West Ham opinion on this is general?

Personally can't see this being good for any fan of an English side.

we don't want it all, looks pure greed and devalues the PL and cup competitions

no one i know wants this.

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

I'd still struggle for an away ticket.

You will when the Grand Finale is a £2000 ticket and hosted in Singapore.

 

[City Man]

Shame on all the owners, so out of touch with reality and the fans

But according to Senor Perez football is the only global sport with 4 billion fans and "big clubs have a responsibility to respond to their desires". I'm obviously well out of touch with fans' desires and oblivious to the clamour for a super league. Luckily I have Perez as a man of the people keeping me in touch with grassroots opinion.

 

[SWP's back]

What's the forum like Kaz

Dreading the SL happening I’d imagine.

 

[bluealf]

I just found it funny because it’s not like the European Cup wasn’t around and wasn’t a prestigious competition that kids will have dreamt of winning irrespective of where they were from or who they grew up supporting.

Each to their own though!

So are you saying as a little boy you dreamed of scoring in the European Cup Final?

Again I am relating my own tale from my own memory and that of my friends that I played football with, why have you such a problem with this?

The Fa Cup was a special trophy that people dreamed of winning, it was a huge thing, both BBC and ITV had build-ups of it all day until 3 pm kick-off, remember those?

We had three channels to watch and two of them covered the FA Cup, of course, boys dreamed of scoring in it.

ps Where did I say the European cup wasn't prestigious?

 

[bluetonium]

Realistically, how does this resolve now?

A) Premier League agree a deal with the new league, which the local FAs support, to allow the 15 clubs to continue to compete in domestic and European games within each league.

B) No agreement is reached. Does the Premier League kick out the 6 clubs involved? That makes the Premier League less attractive and less profitable. Players have to choose between the old layout or the new, which is essentially more money vs being able to compete in mutiple competitions at domestic, European and Interntaional level.

International football needs approval from UEFA and FIFA so is almost a seperate discussion, but would essentially mean they accept and the issue resolves, or they do not and they risk losing players from the biggest teams representing their countries at UEFA and FIFA tournaments.

Basically nobody wants to be pushed out of the cash trough, but will essentially have to accept a smaller share of it, in my opinion. There will be an agreement, UEFA will support the new competition in return for a fee and maybe even having their name attached to it.


One factor nobody seems to have thought of is the footballing calendar. We are proposing increasing the number of European games for 6 English teams by a minmum of 3 I think, if the initial league phase is split into 2 leagues of 10? So that is 3 more games at group stage for 6 teams, compared to previously 4 English teams playing 6 group games. Even if a deal is reached doemstically, you have 18 weekday matches to schedule PER TEAM vs 6 group games now.

Even if ESL games where teams from the same domestic league face each other count for double, where do the extra 12 midweek games, effectively three months worth of midweek fixtures, fit? The current CL groups are done by December, to fit them in you'd have to play continuously midweek through winter and then have the knockouts from Feb/March as we have now.

Players already struggle to play 2-3 times per week. Stars would get injured, be rested, how would you priorotise and how would each league take losing out on star players not playing?

 

[Stoned Rose]

23 year commitment from the 12 clubs signed up so far.

This will happen regardless of any sanctions imposed such as expulsion from the league and cup competitions.

Let's say City get excluded from the PL but have a few games in this Super League thing, how does that give the players enough games?

It'd be like being part-time.