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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%

  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%
  • Total voters
    2,063
FogBlueInSanFran said:
Maybe it's just me, but I think I could argue there'd be even better PR if we said, "We've listened to the fans, and we realized based on their input that we've made a catastrophic decision. While the sustainable income is tempting, and we have to look out for the financial interests of the club and its investor/owners, we cannot do so to the exclusion of our greatest asset -- our fans. We do not have a club without them. In addition, our employees have raised their voices and offered up their own concerns about the future of the club in a Super League structure. We must always balance the needs and wants of all our constituents: fans, employees and investors. In this case, we failed to gauge the balance correctly, for which we take full responsibility. Therefore we rescind our acceptance of Super League admission. Let us now all move forward together to make Manchester City the most successful sporting entity on the globe."
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The fact the club ignored fan opinion and jumped into bed with the Glazers etc, after their repeated attacks on us, will leave a sour taste in the mouths of most Blues, unquestionably. The best PR would have been to stand on our morals, on our history, on our status as a club of the people and not of billionaire cartels, and tell pompous twats Perez et al to get fucked.

That opportunity is gone and a lot of good will with it too - but it's not the end. If City back away, before the government pushes them, apologise and promise to involve fans more in the future, it could be a second best scenario for PR.

It needs to be fast though. Our manager and lads are out there fighting for the badge in competitions we could get thrown out of. The window of opportunity for a turn around is rapidly closing.
 
Akiva said:
The fact the club ignored fan opinion and jumped into bed with the Glazers etc, after their repeated attacks on us, will leave a sour taste in the mouths of most Blues, unquestionably. The best PR would have been to stand on our morals, on our history, on our status as a club of the people and not of billionaire cartels, and tell pompous twats Perez et al to get fucked.

That opportunity is gone and a lot of good will with it too - but it's not the end. If City back away, before the government pushes them, apologise and promise to involve fans more in the future, it could be a second best scenario for PR.

It needs to be fast though. Our manager and lads are out there fighting for the badge in competitions we could get thrown out of. The window of opportunity for a turn around is rapidly closing.
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That's all fair. I can see that point of view for sure.
 
Cobwebcat said:
Competitions..any competitions must be run independently of the clubs participating in them. You think UEFA was bad wait till our direct rivals make the rules with no buffer at all.

The clubs will decide which extra 5 clubs to invite into the ESL each year for a little holiday will they? Based on what? Do they only get a year? How do they get more? What happens to the teams that are not invited but thought they might be..what competition are they in? Do they expect that a team waits to see if they are in the ESL before declining a UEFA competition for a year?

Some of the rules are based on the more popular clubs being paid more than the rest. That’s not a competition in a sporting sense it’s who has the most fans around the World. It will be like boxing with an A side and a B side with teams choosing who they fancy beating.

Scratch beneath the surface and its unworkable Unless it’s a complete break from all other clubs forever which is what they would eventually insist on.
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Wasn't the 'lack of enough interesting games' the main argument put forward by the SL clubs ?

Why would they damage their own product by forming another cartel within the super league, that's suicidal.
We are part of the cartel if this goes through, that's it. We are all the same.
 
ninjamonkey said:
For us or anybody else to back out now shows them up to be such an amateurly run club. Who makes the decision to join this monstrosity being fully aware of the impending backlash and the massive shit you're taking on the fans without being entirely sure about backing it all the way?

Let's entertain the thought of us backing out for a second though, does it change people's feeling towards the club?

For me it's like being in a loving long term relationship, very happy together only to discover one night your girlfriend agreeing to go back to another guys house with them after a night out. You go home alone ready to cut all ties with them then 10 minutes later she walks through the door having had a change of heart on the way back to the guys house. She admits everything and acknowledges how wrong she was. You love this girl, you've spent your entire adult life with them, all you want to do is reconcile, forget it ever happened and carry on with your happy life together but there's a new deep lying nagging feeling of distrust now that's constantly eating away at you. you just can't completely trust them again like you once did, you try make it work and get back to the pre-betrayal days but it's just never the same again.
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Pics or it never happened........ ;-)
 
MCFC1993 said:
Congratulations! 7,700 posts in 2 days across this thread and yours is the worst. That takes some doing!

Instead of slagging off the concept or the cartel of clubs behind the idea, you actually go one step further and slag of the fans who have no say and want a fair merit based system, well done!
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Another 'Say no to drugs kids' indeed........
 
decmancity said:
Rule change and commercial contracts? I don’t think that’s applicable here.

this is what I saw,
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Yeah found it in PL Handbook two different criteria, I wonder though if the club being sanctioned have a vote can’t see anything about that
 
Do you join with real, Barca and the dippers who hate us and ruin football
Or join PSG Bayern And Dortmund (who will want in but can’t say it) Who hate us to save football

Mathis isn’t our battle I’m afraid. We will stand to the side and watch

our battle was last year with uefa! Again why should we help them cunts.....they were happy to destroy us, only CAS stopped that
 
If they do pull out of this the clubs still need to be punished.Fining them will not work,It needs to be something to stop this happening again.My thoughts are start again from division 2.Which is a virtual 3 yr ban from europe.This would also see if the owners are just in it for the money.
 
I simply can't get my head around the process that City have followed so far.. They are the smartest guys in the room so I can only assume they have a brilliant plan to reconnect with those fans that feel disenfranchised..
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
That’s what every single domestic game of football will feel like forever more once the ESL starts.

No domestic game of football will mean anything. There’ll be nothing riding on any game.

City can finish 1st 2nd 8th or get relegated... we’ll still get in the ESL
We can be relegated to League 2 and still in the ESL.

West Ham can finish 4th, 2nd or 1st... they’ll never play in the ESL.
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Not defending ESL but it’s likely that PL Champions would be invited The dirty dozen though intend to compete domestically and the chance of any club other than them winning a domestic league is probably zero just slightly less than it is now
 
For all the condemnation on here, it might be our owner wants this for Manchester City. Let's remember he's only ever been here once, so despite everything he has done for the club, he's done so as an investment in his own glamour project.

Khaldoon is not a mancunian. He is a clean cut educated business manager whose sole purpose in any employment is to ensure the business delivers.

Soriano is cut of the same Spanish cloth as Perez. He to has no allegiance to City, and his dumping of Mancini cost City an FA Cup at a time when such trophies were still hen's teeth for this club.

In short, despite what we might like to think, the Glazers have supported United longer than any of our investors have supported City's exploits.

What I'm trying to say is that despite what may have happened before, those decisions and how we supported them, are purely coincidental, and any assumption that they make decisions with only the fans' best interests are naive. They make decisions to make money, and frankly as much as they have a quest to win the Champions League, that quest comes because it maximises revenue, not because they like European football nor support City. I know it's difficult to stomach, but it's true and it's very sad.

In short, educated business people don't sign up to deals without suitable due diligence and we are now going where the driver is taking us. Unfortunately it seems to be a very grim place for us as supporters but I suspect the driver has quite a smile on their face.
 
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The prem without the top six is finished, the revenue generated will be massively reduced, sponsorship and tv rights massively reduced. Fan attendance down,
The desire to be promoted to the prem will reduce over time as the pull and lure of it diminishes.
Surely to god the last thing the prem wants is to fuck the six off. It’ll be compromised to accommodate us.

a champions league without the 12 is also most of the above, although they will kick us out of it for sure, even though we’ve said goodbye to it.

if we are not governed by the prem or eufa, who can stop us doing what the hell we want. How do they stop transfers or work permits without discrimination.

a World Cup without Ronaldo, Messi, etc would be a pr disaster, I realise that these names are fading but they’ll be new stars they intend to ban. All threats and bollocks for me.
 
To Manchester City X football club
When you needed us the fans we were there,
Now we the fans need you ,your not there ,
Now is the time for us fans to walk away
 
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