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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%

  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%
  • Total voters
    2,063
eversince 76 said:
Honest question:

When the PL was formed, it made rich people aware of the worldwide attraction. Loads of PL clubs invited foreign owners. The PL became by far the richest and best watched league in the world. Making it even more attractive to oversees billionaires. The fans loved it. Nobody cared who had the power.
Now some of these billionaires see fit a way to make even more money.

Haven’t we as in PL clubs and fans, simply sold our soul to the devil?
Doesn’t it make the emotional reaction from the media and fans somehow fickle?
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Hello my friend,

I think it kind of does: it is one logical extension of what has gone before.

I'm a football romantic and traditionalist in many ways; in fact, I've never liked on that basis the fact we have a Premier League and then the Football League but life, business etc moves on.
 
BobKowalski said:
The idea City would or should pass on an invite to join an elite league of 11 of the biggest clubs in world football and as a founder member is pure fantasy.
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The idea that City would jump into bed with the five signatories of that infamous letter, who tried everything in their power to fuck us over once and for all, is worse.

You can harp on all day about how great it must feel to be the rags in blue, but I'm not buying it. The Super League is a load of shite, the rich positioning themselves in a place to get richer and have no threat of relegation, while shutting out any chance their power could shift to other clubs based on merit or effort. It's bollocks.

This whole situation is slimey as fuck and if this is what City are now then I'm out. You and the 98 others can sit back and feel some sense of pride as our manager picks the under 21s for the weekend's meaningless Premier League clash - assuming the League simply don't dump us.
 
Grassland Blue said:
But is the ESL really a competition?
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No. It may as well be a touring production of Strictly come Dancing, with a faux 'competition', a lttle token trophy for the winners who will be showered in glitter and confetti and then go for drinks with all the other players at the wrap party. The tourist in the seats will love it as they get to see their favourite dancer/player. They'll probably set up a voting system (texts costs 50p plus your standing network charge folks) so you can vote for the best outfit, or maybe you can vote for who gets in next seasons production.
Can't wait.
 
Citizen of Legoland said:
Well it won't be the best 15 clubs in Europe and 5 from a fair play system. It will be 5 that can at least attempt to compete.
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It will be the 5 that will consider joining up permanently so they can close the door.

It isn’t a competition based on merit it’s a show. The ESL don’t care if they can compete or not in fact it would be better for them if the invited clubs finished bottom.
 
With regards to what Tolmie posted, just imagine if this agreement in principle from ourselves was hatched with us to then leak the intention of its creation, forcing the instigators to resign and leave their UEFA/ECA positions, show the clubs involved true colours to the world

All whilst still meeting with ceferin to say - we are not the enemy, look at what your supposed glory clubs have done

We then pull out leaving this lot pissing into the wind

fingers crossed
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
Business stability which is driven by money Bob. These owners are very wealthy and most are not prepared to put their own cash into the clubs hence they want a bigger slice of the pie.
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Yes, they want a guaranteed return on their investment, the ESL concept gives them that guarantee. Mansour is no different. The only difference would be accepting a longer timeframe to see that return than your average venture capitalist.

Silver Lake, an American equity fund, bought a 10% share in CFG. You reckon they were buying in for the romance or a healthy return on that investment? How do you think they would react if City passed on an invite to join a franchise model with 11 of the biggest clubs in world football and a guaranteed £350m sign on payment?
 
decmancity said:
Salford shouldn't have a chance of playing european football at all, he is bypassing decades of hard work from other teams simply because he can pay bigger wages and attract players that normally wouldn't look at League 2 twice.
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Just a tad hypocritical that, IMO.
decmancity said:
Exactly the same things he wants to moan about each week on the TV.
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And I haven't heard him moaning about clubs' spending at all. In fact I've heard him defending our spending as being entirely justified and the only way for us to break into the top level.
 
Cobwebcat said:
Our new leader...

Florentino Perez: "When Madrid and Barcelona play, the world stops. It's a luxury that we have here. When Manchester United and City play that doesn't happen."

Florentino Perez: "Us, big clubs, we will get a lot of money, then we will distribute it to everyone. But first we need the money.

Florentino Perez: "This isn't a battle for money, this is a battle for football. We're trying to save football, and some people don't care because it's not in their financial interest."

Florentino Perez: "We might have to make the football match shorter if it's not interesting"

Florentino Perez: "Small clubs' survival depend on us, and this will be good for them

Florentino Perez: "We will hire some of the best referees in the world."

Florentino Perez: "Barcelona are going through a difficult economic situation, Laporta immediately understood and accepted like all the great clubs in the world. This Super League will save the entire world of football"

Florentino Perez: "This change, we owe it to all the fans."

Florentino Perez: "The UEFA president INSULTED Agnelli today, and that is UNACCEPTABLE

Florentino Perez: "They can't kick us out from this season's #UCL

Florentino Perez: "Our players will NOT be banned from the World Cup. I guarantee it. They can be 100% certain of it.

Florentino Perez: "All I do is for the good of football."

Florentino Perez: "Here at Real Madrid, we lost a lot of money and we are in a very bad situation."
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Our new bosom buddy and bestest fwend who wants nothing but the best for Manchester City!
 
I can see this new league being a none starter.There is clearly a mountain of pressure on these 12 clubs to reconsider & If one team makes a u turn then others will follow.
 
MarsLlama said:
I don't boo them because I'm not a child. Many, many other City fans in the same boat.

We have a choice between working with an organisation we don't like or destroying football.

Easy call for me.
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I see it is already a closed shop, if West Ham were to qualify for CL they have two choices. Invest heavily to compete with the likes of us and PSG, and risk a Leeds style collapse if it turns to shit or hope they finish third and get the Thursday night cup. A quick look at the winners of the CL for the last twenty years shows the lack of any real competition.
 
Cobwebcat said:
Interesting points but when politicians are involved things can change. Already we have our government saying no foreign players will be given visas to play in the ESL. I don’t know if they would follow through but they could do that in a day.
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How can they legally justify visa denial for one football competition but not for another one?

I think we'll find that politicians will be powerless to stop this and, whilst any prominent dissent against this is helpful, you can't help but feel that an unpopular government were never going to let this opportunity go to waste.
 
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