The Super League | FA + PL: New Charter & Fines | UEFA: Settlement

[91:23]

I'm a back them or sack them kind of person, the way City have treated us all since Sunday evening is nothing short of disgraceful. Someone will be falling on their sword for sure. Bollocks did we have little notice, and if we did, you pull an all nighter to consider it properly.

171 page contract sly are reporting. That doesn't get drawn up in a few days. This has been ongoing for months

 

[City Man]

I've heard it was an 'in principle' agreement only "City" Man.

Good. I suppose the ashes of this debacle will be raked over for some time. I'm now turning my attention to seasoncard renewal, yet another scarf and usb stick, pre and post match pints, getting rained on in my seat conveniently positioned just outside the stand cover and trudging back to Piccadilly in the wet and dark. Never has the prospect seemed so sweet.

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

Genuine question now, we have seen over the last 3 days the outrage from those against this farce of a competition - especially from us the fans

But there is still an elephant in the room and one that should not be allowed to be forgotten or swept aside. And that is the newly reformed champions league format that has an even bigger protectionist element actively within its rules allowing any established g14 club to qualify based on past merit regardless of there league position

This is also an abhorrent regulation that is basically a watered down version of the non-relegation side of the super league

We should move against this reform and force UEFA to remove this element from within european competition

 

[City Raider]

Apart from Arsenal having won more trophies that City, and Spurs having won the same amount, i can't think of anything...

1. M*nchester Un*ted - 66 trophies
2. Liverpool - 65 trophies
3. Arsenal - 48 trophies
4. Chelsea - 31 trophies
5. Manchester City - 26 trophies
6. Tottenham Hotspur - 26 trophies

This is the kind of comment that gives City a bad name, 20, 15 even 10 years ago, City would have been nowhere near this ESL Shitshow.

50 years ago we would have been though. Before Arsenal forced through Sky deal and more recent than Spurs most recent league title.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

So everyone and everything we didn't like before we now do and accept. Going to be quiet on here when the dust settles

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

Personally speaking, I'm not sure how I feel. I'm not sure I feel anything.
I just feel numb.
While I'm glad we pulled out, I just don't feel the same closeness and emotion for the club as I did last Saturday.
I just feel a kind of sadness, a sense of loss, of sense of drift and alienation.
One thing this episode has brought home is that football is about more than how many trophies you can win, money you can spend, players you can buy, the size of your revenue and the number of fans in the stadium and worldwide, it isn't all about tribalism, it isn't all about rivalry.. It's about integrity, it's about fairness, it's about morals, sporting and otherwise, it's about community, it's about togetherness, it's about belonging. All these values were challenged and the truth of what football has become was laid stark and bare for everyone to see.
Genuine football fans will forever, I think, be changed by this experience. Having experienced both sides of the football coin, being piss poor and shit, and also now being mega rich and one of the best teams in the world, they will evaluate what football and being a football fan means to them. They will come out the other side and experience and view football in a different way and perhaps become better football fans.
I'm sorry if I sound a bit melodramatic but something I can't put my finger on seems to have irrevocably changed inside me.

Put your faith in Pep and the players, get behind the lads in these next three games, they deserve that & need it, as supporters of this great club we should be looking to make positive change, our club has been slowly taken away from your average fan over the last decade with token gestures attempting to address the balance, we’ve all been blinded by the success, but now is the time for us to build on the small momentum we have achieved already to avoid another situation like this and implement change, starting with season ticket rises and the club inviting supporters to form a committee with a genuine direct route to the upper echelons of the club

 

[Len Rum]

Personally speaking, I'm not sure how I feel. I'm not sure I feel anything.
I just feel numb.
While I'm glad we pulled out, I just don't feel the same closeness and emotion for the club as I did last Saturday.
I just feel a kind of sadness, a sense of loss, of sense of drift and alienation.
One thing this episode has brought home is that football is about more than how many trophies you can win, money you can spend, players you can buy, the size of your revenue and the number of fans in the stadium and worldwide, it isn't all about tribalism, it isn't all about rivalry.. It's about integrity, it's about fairness, it's about community, it's about togetherness, it's about belonging. All these values were challenged and the truth of what football has become was laid stark and bare for everyone to see.
Genuine football fans will forever, I think, be changed by this experience. Having experienced both sides of the football coin, being piss poor and shit, and also now being mega rich and one of the best teams in the world, they will evaluate what football and being a football fan means to them. They will come out the other side and experience and view football in a different way and perhaps become better football fans.
I'm sorry if I sound a bit melodramatic but something I can't put my finger on seems to have irrevocably changed inside me.

The Sheikh's decision to acquire City was IMO primarily for reasons of PR, status,commerce and business advantage to himself, his royal family,Abu Dhabi and the UAE.
Bonding with the fans in terms of City Square and improving local community infrastructure etc has played a not insignificant part in this but IMO is peripheral to the main objective.
I have always accepted this and been happy to go along with it.
The FFP case last year and the existential threat this posed and now this ESL issue ( Machiavellian or cock up) are evidence of the bigger issues at play here.

 

[mexico1970]

Like Gary Barlow’s ‘non-apology apology’ after he was caught tax dodging. “I’m sorry if anyone was offended”

He should have apologised because let's face it.

It Only Takes A Minute.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

please

I get both of your positions and are both right in some ways.

However, Arsenal are shouting Kroenke out fam. We’re not calling for our owners to go.

 

[hammocity]

Genuine question now, we have seen over the last 3 days the outrage from those against this farce of a competition - especially from us the fans

But there is still an elephant in the room and one that should not be allowed to be forgotten or swept aside. And that is the newly reformed champions league format that has an even bigger protectionist element actively within its rules allowing any established g14 club to qualify based on past merit regardless of there league position

This is also an abhorrent regulation that is basically a watered down version of the non-relegation side of the super league

We should move against this reform and force UEFA to remove this element from within european competition

Let's hope a grown up discussion follows that buries the proposal of qualifying by history is permanently quashed. It, like the Super League proposal is ridiculous.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

I’m rather hoping there is a fine, for pulling out, in the documents we supposedly signed. A rather big one. I’m just hoping that rather than finding its way into Perez’s bank, that it’s shared amongst the rest of the teams in each of the domestic leagues effected.

Is that sharing the money amongst the teams that sent a letter to CAS, demanding we were thrown out of the CL, so one of them could take the place? The group who complain about ‘self interest’ and then do nothing but further their own self interest? The group who moan every week about city having a bigger squad than they do (spoiler alert. We have the same number as everyone else)? The group who refused more subs because it ‘might benefit the big clubs’, not look after the players? So for me, I’d give them not one penny.
Make no mistake, as Pep said yesterday, football is all about self interest and that is especially relevant when it comes to money.
As Bamford said, if people could mobilise this quickly over racism in football, there wouldn’t be any.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

some interesting stuff in the Athletic

Not a sentence you see very often........

 

[skillman]

He should have apologised because let's face it.

It Only Takes A Minute.

Wasn't his Greatest Day

 

[Ashleymcduff]

Well I do and clearly Gray does too so presumably there are likely to be others who do. Personally I think it’s vital people know who went first because it’s the first domino that starts things tipping over and doing it of your own volition is slightly morally better than doing it further down the line because you’ve realised the dominoes are falling.

bollocks , we should never ever of been involved.

as if leaving first makes it any betterz

if we were first we should of said it before chelsea did it. Not wait till 10pm to announce it . Silence all day was deafeninf

 

[LongsightM13]

He should have apologised because let's face it.

It Only Takes A Minute.

Must...not....bite....

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

Let's hope a grown up discussion follows that buries the proposal of qualifying by history is permanently quashed. It, like the Super League proposal is ridiculous.

I hope so, it is a another rule to keep the history boys appeased and this is why after everything that has gone on that UEFA should see the light - the clubs they stupidly protect have just tried to royally fuck them over, and if we are being honest probably will again in the future

 

[HelloCity]

Apart from Arsenal having won more trophies that City, and Spurs having won the same amount, i can't think of anything...

1. M*nchester Un*ted - 66 trophies
2. Liverpool - 65 trophies
3. Arsenal - 48 trophies
4. Chelsea - 31 trophies
5. Manchester City - 26 trophies
6. Tottenham Hotspur - 26 trophies

This is the kind of comment that gives City a bad name, 20, 15 even 10 years ago, City would have been nowhere near this ESL Shitshow.

Spurs and City the same?

Is this table distorted by the inclusion of the charity shield?

 

[mexico1970]

After the fact I have just watched a, interview with Ratboy and Spit The Dog, and they keep going on about one thing, football needs reform.

What shape would that reform come in considering both of these were harping on about foreign owners? Liverpool shit the bed this season and the rags aren't genuinely in anything of note, I get the feeling that given the opportunity they'd take us in the ginnel and drown us in a bucket of water.

 

[lazerblue]

What kind of a welcome will we get from the villa fans tonight, can see it being quite lively, or will they forgive us for pulling the plug early and collapsing the whole thing

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

That’s two people that have recognised it. I didn’t know so many blues had ever visited.

Did you relocate due to the Pearl jam?