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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%

  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%
  • Total voters
    2,063
In many ways, I'm almost glad this happened this way.

There's been lots of talk that we should have waited until Monday and seen what the reaction was before deciding to join, hopefully this way certain members of the board (mainly Soriano) have seen what 'fan power' can actually do. Let's be honest, as much as I will be forever grateful for what Mansour has done for us, the club recently has never been further away from the local fans as it has been now. I accept that to a certain degree becoming a global institution will do that, but whether it's splitting fans up with the Tunnel Club, raising season ticket prices every year, the distribution of away tickets to ticketing agencies etc, they haven't helped themselves at times...

Hopefully this is a wake up call.
 
kaz7 said:
It is not down to the players and they dont need to feel bad about it , they are offered a contract from a well run club the club got greedy , saw money signs and forgot the meaning of football

Hope soriano falls on his sword
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Sorry, but the players are a huge part of football wider problems. If they continue like this somethings got to give at some point
 
oakiecokie said:
That actually reminds me of a story that my Mum told me.
One evening in the early 1950`s (Mum said I was only about 4 years of age) and I went to the local grocers with her.
As we were just leaving the owner said "Goodnight Alan " and by all accounts without even batting an eyelid I retorted "Goodnight you old buggers" !!!!
Mum said she scarpered quickly and never went back to the shop for months.
By all accounts the owner and the customers laughed like hell after we`d gone.
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Quality, can't beat a good laugh.
 
kaz7 said:
They are not joined at the hip lol

I would take soriano saying sorry
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Pep constantly talks about management behind the scenes. Saying you want key management to fall on their swords just agitates for trouble ahead.
If a sorry will make you feel better, then say that.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
I’m sure we’re flattered, but I doubt our stock has gone up with other supporters.

We’ll start tonight and see what the reaction is at Villa.
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They will have a go, it's the way things are, but deep down they will be glad you stood up, even if they don't admit it. But, fuck them if they do, you stood up for your club. Focus on that. That's all that matters.
 
Fans seem to think it was "fan power" that beat this, but it wasn't. Read what Chelsea and City players said and it was the threat of losing CL/WC participation that was the driving force behind the players not wanting in. With no players, there is no competition.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
You'd hope, although it's not likely to happen, that this move has castrated the big clubs enough for UEFA and the Champions League to start telling them to fuck off with their threats and bullying tactics and actually open the competition back out to clubs across Europe.

I mean we take the piss out of Scottish football, but is it really fair that the club that won the title in the 14th best league in Europe has to go through 3 qualifying rounds to get into a tournament with 32 spaces, while the 4th placed team in England or the 2nd best team in Russia go straight through to the tournament? And people might say that they're shit, but why is that? Is it because they've had extra obstacles put in front of them because they just want the big teams in every year? I still remember not too long ago when Celtic would give the big boys a run for their money at times. And I'm using Celtic, but it could just as easily be Dinamo Zagreb, Red Star Belgrade, Olympiakos, or any other number of teams that were actually champions. And even if they get knocked out in the first round, how is that any different to the rags or automatic qualifiers Rennes and Marseille who went out with 1 and 3 points respectively?

Hell, it was only because of covid fucking up the schedules that Ajax didn't have to qualify. Fucking Ajax! Champions of the Dutch league and semi-finalists two years ago, and they would have had to go through the qualifying rounds. But if West Ham scrape into the top four this season, they'll go straight to the group stages because they're from England despite never having either won the league or competed in the Champions League.

I'm all in favour of making it harder to qualify from the big five leagues (maximum 2 automatic qualifiers and the rest go through qualifying rounds) and have more automatic qualifiers from smaller leagues. But I bet it won't happen because UEFA are more interested in lining their pockets than principles, and big teams from big leagues do that unfortunately.
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That's all fair and fine but one of the big complaints on BM is the Micky Mouse nature of a lot of the matches in the group stages. Diluting the tournament to EL levels while fair to the minnows does little to improve the spectacle. You can't have your cake and eat it!!
 
There is no way we could have ‘waited until Monday’ as some are suggesting. It wasnt an option. The ESL were in a race against time to get out ahead of UEFA’s vote on CL reforms on the Monday and needed six PL members to avoid domestic sanctions.
 
CityBlu said:
Fans seem to think it was "fan power" that beat this, but it wasn't. Read what Chelsea and City players said and it was the threat of losing CL/WC participation that was the driving force behind the players not wanting in. With no players, there is no competition.
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It was partly fan power , fans did their bit, but it was also as you said players and coaches.
Also the media were,against it too.
 
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