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[Stoned Rose]

Think we are all mainly happy we pulled out.

But their is a split with blues on whether it should be forgive and forget or city need to show contrition.

Everyone will have forgotten about this within a few days I reckon mate.

Let's crack the fuck on and get these 3 trophies won.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

It's over. We need to use the momentum to right the other wrongs in the game before the dust settles, & things invariably return to a pre-ESL norm.

Debt is the major issue. Debt is driven by the need for success. The need for success drives up debt. High transfer fees & wages are the by products of success, which drives up debt to maintain that success. It's cyclical like a runaway greenhouse effect & won't stop unless there is a root & branch review of football finances, with paying fans at the heart of it.

I can't see KDB accepting a 50% pay cut for the good of the game, but if the ESL has proved anything, it's that football needs to press the reset button to stop this runaway financial madness.

Throw bad management into the middle of that, ensuring the success required to service the debt isn’t achieved and theres’s your spiral out of control.

Football needs a long hard look at itself when these mouthpieces talk about sustainability.

 

[mixer]

I think it was my cancelling of City+ at teatime that broke the camel’s back.

I reckoned it was me unfollowing the MCFC podcast on spotify with Rob Pollard as your host

 

[LongsightM13]

That's all fair and fine but one of the big complaints on BM is the Micky Mouse nature of a lot of the matches in the group stages. Diluting the tournament to EL levels while fair to the minnows does little to improve the spectacle. You can't have your cake and eat it!!

I’d much prefer to play the champions of say Sweden, Poland and Hungary than the third or fourth best sides in Spain, Germany etc. Proper European Cup style, they've earned their shot and the competition could do with some new blood rather than us getting the same teams in the groups every year. Though I realise that may be an age thingn and not as commercially viable

 

[Chi-town blues]

Rip sugar league

 

[Coatigan]

They are not joined at the hip lol

I would take soriano saying sorry

Why do yiu need or want a sorry?

Will it tell you anything more than what you know now? will it reveal anything?

They can only he sorry for a broader perception of events we have very little understanding of. Neither is necessarily real, so why would it matter.

 

[Manc in London]

I said in the media thread that the football press have been brutally exposed as gullible rubes who have been sleeping on the job for years. Allowed the American owned clubs to cook this up right under their noses while they were instead pointed in the direction of ‘dirty Arab money’

I cannot work out if some are as stupid as they appear or they are clickbait merchants. More likely the latter.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

That's all fair and fine but one of the big complaints on BM is the Micky Mouse nature of a lot of the matches in the group stages. Diluting the tournament to EL levels while fair to the minnows does little to improve the spectacle. You can't have your cake and eat it!!

But the minnows are minnows for a reason. Shakhtar are a good team and always a tough game because they qualify every year. Celtic used to be the same. If you can rely on at least semi-regular CL money, then you can build a decent team. If you're qualifying once every few years because you have to win three games to qualify after already winning your league, then you can't sign good players on long-term contracts.

But also if we actually allow a decent amount of this money to filter into the leagues that have a qualifying team, then you might actually be able to lift the quality of the other leagues rather than having it ruin them.

 

[west didsblue]

I’d much prefer to play the champions of say Sweden, Poland and Hungary than the third or fourth best sides in Spain, Germany etc. Proper European Cup style, they've earned their shot and the competition could do with some new blood rather than us getting the same teams in the groups every year. Though I realise that may be an age thingn and not as commercially viable

Yep, I'd much prefer a trip to Warsaw, Poznan or Gothenburg than another trip to Madid, Barcelona or Munich.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Still waiting for the club's apology to the fans

 

[Franny's toilet roll]

I've completely changed my mind on Henderson now that he has saved football or do I still think he's an opportunist?

 

[Sheriff Fatman]

Rick Parry on BBC Radio 4.

"We need to examine the fault lines that lead to this".

Irony at its finest!

 

[ScottSinclair]

Yep, I'd much prefer a trip to Warsaw, Poznan or Gothenburg than another trip to Madid, Barcelona or Munich.

Dont know if sarcastic but Gothenburg is a lovely city

 

[mayo31]

It is not down to the players and they dont need to feel bad about it , they are offered a contract from a well run club the club got greedy , saw money signs and forgot the meaning of football

Hope soriano falls on his sword

It is not down to them but they and the agents they employ are part of the problem.

KDB does not have an agent but he has rode on the back of other star players agents who have managed to ensure players are paid this huge amounts

This argument that if you offered X amount you would take it is all well and good but then do not bleat when your company/business spoils your little cosy dream looking to get the money to pay your £400k a week or whatever it is.

If we want a game that does not need to constantly look at ways of making money then the players also have to consider what they ask for.

Sponsorship etc is still fan money

I include all players in this not just KDB

 

[west didsblue]

Dont know if sarcastic but Gothenburg is a lovely city

Wasn't being sarcastic. We always end up visiting the same places. It would be good to have the opportunity to go to others.
Maybe we'd be better off coming 5th ;-)

 

[blueyorkie]

I've no idea why we did this. But it's quite possible that in the long-term this could play out well for City.

I think there’s far more to City’s involvement than was at first apparent. After the hounding by the old G14 cartel & them forcing UEFA into the FFP charade we vowed to get even. Look at the fallout from this, almost like a surgeon removing a disease. Rags, Liverpool, Arsena, Madrid & Barca in the mire. Maybe more to come too

 

[Northblue]

A caller has rung into talkshite and just said,you ready for this...."first thing John Henry should do is apologise to the families of the 96"......what the fuck.....unbelievable.....

Was listening to that earlier, nearly spat out my brew.. wtf haha

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

I hope the blame/cancel culture we live in doesn’t require ‘somebody’ or ‘anybody’ to be the fall guy, we see enough of that on match day threads, Gundy Mahrez & now Raz, with plenty more before them, don’t fall for the Sky led frenzy we’ve seen in the last few days, and no doubt the inquest that follows, there is an element of our support that feels mobilised & looking for answers, surely the time for that is the end of the season, the players & management need our support, they have been exemplary throughout the last 72 hrs, so let’s put our trust in the club (for now) and support Pep & the players

 

[LongsightM13]

I cannot work out if some are as stupid as they appear or they are clickbait merchants. More likely the latter.

The football press and broadcasters were led by the nose at every stage by the American redshirts. “Don’t look at us! Look over there! Arabs!!!”
They should be embarrassed

 

[momo88]

A lot of things were said during this last hours, from Football is dead, football belong to the fans, let save football, i don't recognize my club, etc.

But despite what we think about some clubs or owners, don't you think something in missing that need to be addressed?

- why these clubs tought about joining this project? What was the motivation behind?

- why they wanted a closed or almost league instead of CL?

-why suddenly UEFA talk about distributing more money?

- do you think if many people saw the 2024 CL format?

-why they didn't come up clear with this project before an official announcement?

-why UEFA is against it?

-why the medias are against it?

- why many people don't know that before CL there was a competition called C1?

- is there a parallel with the bosman case? It was revolutionary at that time

- Are the players responsible for this? Don't you thnik their wages are a burden for many competitive clubs?

-why fans (mostly) want their team to win everything but don't take into account the money involved, operating costs?

-why there is a correlation between succces and clubs turnovers? (with few exceptions)

- why a club like Barca has to borrow money from banks to pay their players wages despite having a big turnover and no dividend for shareholders?

- What are the solutions to make the clubs sustainable?

- If fans wants constant success, will they accept to pay more for this succes?

- How nowadays a club can be competitive, sustainable without global following? Tourists glory hunters call them what you want

- During this Corona times, how clubs can cope with it if the revenues are less and players demand more wages to negociate to extend their contracts?

Why some of our "City fans" who hated CL and preferred the premier league suddenly felt that the club let them down because it wanted to play in a new format instead of CL? (i am not about the no communication before but the idea of joining)