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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%

  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%
  • Total voters
    2,063
Gordyola said:
Can’t happen hence why yesterday the 14 PL were powerless as they need 75% to carry through a significant punishment Once City left ESL the other 5 knew they could be expelled
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I'm pretty sure you only need 2/3rds to push anything through the PL, not 3/4.
 
Magicpole said:
Great post and the issues you raise are correct, but you need to put it into perspective regarding City as a club and institution. A small group of men you could fit in a family car caused this. Your club has been a pivitoll part of millions of people's lives for over 100 years. Through good times and bad and plenty of utter shit times in which the support stood their ground and kept the light on, no matter how bad people at the top ran the club. You have to remember one critical thing. You lot are Man City. Not any owner, any CEO, any suit who fucks things up and brings you into disrepute. For all their perceived and real power, you stood up when they tried to undermine what you stand for and you defeated them, for the simple reason that you are the club, and will still be long after they have moved on. I would be pissed off too, but, I would focus that anger on that small group of men, whose greed and total failure to grasp what our clubs mean to every supporter the world over.

It isn't the time to sweep it aside though. You deserve answers and those responsible need to pay a price. They are now aware that they might have all the money, but all their money couldn't stop the actual club, the support, from blowing them to fuck right out of the water. Be proud of that. Be proud your support had that integrity. Had the love of the game to say, go fuck yourselves, we will not have this. If anything, you should be more proud of City. You have loads of money and could have made more, but it went against being fair, being right. This to me would be a source of pride that you stood up and sent them scurrying. They aren't Man City, they have answers to give, responsibility to accept, those five or six men. They have let you down, but City was saved by the people who are City and who have been City since the first game played by men with big moustaches in shorts that could be turned into tents. Never forget that and take pride in that. You have sent a shot across the bows of men who think they can take an institution that you love and undermine whst it means. Their awful plan didn't set sail. It was intercepted before it left the harbour by City men and women and literally blown to fuck out of the water. So if you agree with me that we as the support are the club, are every club, then you can be proud of it. You haven't only helped City but you have given hope to us all that we can all reign in greedy, selfish, non football men and if they want to go ahead by going against all we hold dear, we can and will take them down. I'm proud of you, if anything you have shown how much integrity you have and a group of men have found out just how much and how strong that is. This was a battle that had to be fought for football supporters everywhere. You not only stood up and moved to the fight, you won. If you hadn't, the game we love would have died. Don't get me wrong, I would expect no less, but I tip my cap to you all. That's what you should take from this. You stood firm and helped save the game. That seems dramatic, but it isn't, it's true. If these billionaires and their CEO's got away with it and you did nothing, then City would be fucked. These men have an integrity problem, the people who have been City, who are City now and who will be in the future won.
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Great post Magicpole , and some of our supporters need to read this .
 
Magicpole said:
Great post and the issues you raise are correct, but you need to put it into perspective regarding City as a club and institution. A small group of men you could fit in a family car caused this. Your club has been a pivitoll part of millions of people's lives for over 100 years. Through good times and bad and plenty of utter shit times in which the support stood their ground and kept the light on, no matter how bad people at the top ran the club. You have to remember one critical thing. You lot are Man City. Not any owner, any CEO, any suit who fucks things up and brings you into disrepute. For all their perceived and real power, you stood up when they tried to undermine what you stand for and you defeated them, for the simple reason that you are the club, and will still be long after they have moved on. I would be pissed off too, but, I would focus that anger on that small group of men, whose greed and total failure to grasp what our clubs mean to every supporter the world over.

It isn't the time to sweep it aside though. You deserve answers and those responsible need to pay a price. They are now aware that they might have all the money, but all their money couldn't stop the actual club, the support, from blowing them to fuck right out of the water. Be proud of that. Be proud your support had that integrity. Had the love of the game to say, go fuck yourselves, we will not have this. If anything, you should be more proud of City. You have loads of money and could have made more, but it went against being fair, being right. This to me would be a source of pride that you stood up and sent them scurrying. They aren't Man City, they have answers to give, responsibility to accept, those five or six men. They have let you down, but City was saved by the people who are City and who have been City since the first game played by men with big moustaches in shorts that could be turned into tents. Never forget that and take pride in that. You have sent a shot across the bows of men who think they can take an institution that you love and undermine whst it means. Their awful plan didn't set sail. It was intercepted before it left the harbour by City men and women and literally blown to fuck out of the water. So if you agree with me that we as the support are the club, are every club, then you can be proud of it. You haven't only helped City but you have given hope to us all that we can all reign in greedy, selfish, non football men and if they want to go ahead by going against all we hold dear, we can and will take them down. I'm proud of you, if anything you have shown how much integrity you have and a group of men have found out just how much and how strong that is. This was a battle that had to be fought for football supporters everywhere. You not only stood up and moved to the fight, you won. If you hadn't, the game we love would have died. Don't get me wrong, I would expect no less, but I tip my cap to you all. That's what you should take from this. You stood firm and helped save the game. That seems dramatic, but it isn't, it's true. If these billionaires and their CEO's got away with it and you did nothing, then City would be fucked. These men have an integrity problem, the people who have been City, who are City now and who will be in the future won.
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worsleyweb said:
I was thinking about this last night. The best solution for me in all this and to make things more competitive and interesting would be a completely random champions league draw. That way let’s say a team like Leicester gets top 4 and a lovely draw in the champions league. Just maybe they could progress to a later round and make a fortune or even win it. If we drew Barca Bayern and Real in the group stages and went out so be it. Also I would make the 4th place team in the prem play a knock out game with the Fa cup winner for the final champions league place. More risk and more excitement and more chance for smaller clubs to get in the big competitions.
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Love that idea, one problem, to much risk for the greedy 12. Now is the time when the rest of football need to take back ownership of the game and bring in fair and realistic reforms, something like you suggest would be great and if there was ever a time when the so called big clubs have lost influence it is now. Hit them now before they get back up off the floor.
 
Manc in London said:
I honestly could not get wound up about it. It was nonsense and a non-starter anyway. What I found most amusing was that clubs, fans, journalists and pundits appeared to have suddenly realised the cabal are all about lining their pockets at the expense of others. If anything, it just highlighted the naivety of clubs, fans, journalists and pundits. Yet these will continue to view FFP as a good thing. Thick as mince.
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I said in the media thread that the football press have been brutally exposed as gullible rubes who have been sleeping on the job for years. Allowed the American owned clubs to cook this up right under their noses while they were instead pointed in the direction of ‘dirty Arab money’
 
Whatever City are doing behind the scenes I wish they would hurry up.

We need to hear from Khaldoon and not in writing. We absolutely deserve to hear an apology and that any future proposal will not feature an invitational tournament based on current popularity that cuts out all other clubs for greed.

Even “sorry” would be nice.

Most City fans are dying to forgive them, it’s not something they should be wary of doing.
 
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Is it possible that a small part of the decision to join was in fact it our (the fans) hatred for Uefa and that the owners thought we would be okay with it ....in fact pleased with it. Is it right that we now take the moral high ground after the fact knowing how much we despise Uefa. Did we have a part in this saga?
 
LongsightM13 said:
I’ve predicted since it all started to unravel that Soriano will be offered up as a sacrifice. Probably not a sacking/resignation but more likely a sideways move to head up CFG overseas or something similar. The media and the football world wants heads on stakes now
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I think our silence says different. Let everyone else talk, & we should ride it out until Sunday's final. This week's newpapers will become next week's fish & chips wrappers. Soriano is too valuable to City to dispense with. As our CEO, it's incumbent on him to look at all opportunities & put City first.

The fact we pulled out ahead of everyone else, & have said very little should suffice. We've got a job to do, so I doubt we'll throw the baby out with the bath water over this failed coup not of our making. On top of this, we have no friends in the PL, UEFA, G14 or the ESL, so fuck the lot of em, we've nothing to apologise for after what the bastards have tried to do to us over the last 12 years. No harm done.
 
One other point club rivalries have come back a little too quickly for my liking. At least wait until tomorrow!

All our anger should still be focused on the clubs rather than any rush to defend them for their part in it based on club loyalty.

We might be less accountable than those that came up with it but we are not heroes in this. City made a huge mistake.

Fess up City.
 
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