Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Healdplace said:
It is if you look at the England picture. Not if you look at the NW one.

NW is far and away why there is even a posibility of no opening up next month.

The only area where this variant seems to hve taken a big hold and may be creat ing issues.

Hopefully these will be the unvaccinted. Hopefully the unvaccinated will see sense and stop saying no.

But if not and the opening up gets suspemded - even just locally in the NW or GM - then do not complain about lack of freedoms. In a pandemic you have a right to say no. But have to take the consequeces of that no as well.
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It'd be useful if Mr Govt. could provide a breakdown in ages/vaccine/no vaccine on these figures, it may mean people would actually have it as however it all falls until we are near enough all jabbed the UK and the world isn't going to get even near an acceptable new norm.
 
Always thought that opening up on 21st June before everyone over 18 had received their first jab was a bit of a leap.
Hopefully, as others have said, that the vaccines will keep a lid on this, the issue is that it takes at least two weeks for the first dose to be effective.
 
England hospital deaths today 11 with 4 from the NW

2 in East Lancashire and 2 in Manchester.

2 each in East, London, Yorkshire & 1 in MIdlands. 0 elsewere

Last week was 5 with 1 NW, Wk before 7 with 1 NW, Wk before 12 with 0 NW.

Again NW is driving this rising number too.


Moreover 7 of those 11 were on 26 May taking that day up to 10 after just 2 days. This is the first double figure number on any day for 16 days. And only the second double figure number after 2 days for the past month.

Small signs but like the others not good ones.

I of the 11 was discounted today as it was 4 months old.
 
Healdplace said:
Some good news at last today!

Northern Ireland is the first of the 4 nations to have ZERO patients with Covid on a ventilator since last Summer.

There are 28 patients in hospital there out of a population of 1.9 million.
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Vaccine rollout going well
 
Wales had a mixed day on the hospital front. Like England.

Patients down to just 17.

Out of a population of 3.2 million - so even better than N Ireland.

But Ventilators are up to 5 - it was just 1 last Friday.
 
So in those two nations in a population of just over 5 million

There are 47 in hospital with Covid. 27 in the NW of England alone were admitted today.

And 5 on ventilators - versus the 30 in the NW alone.

I think Wales and N Ireland have a good chance of opening up next month.

Though they might have to think about keeping the English and Scots out for a while.
 


Might go some way to explaining what's going on with this current rise in cases. Basically one dose of AZ is doing very little and two doses of this particular vaccine are absolutely necessary. Drop off for one dose of Pfizer nowhere near as bad and still offers good protection.

We will have so many people at present on one dose of AZ.

Actually given that news it might make more sense to reduce the 12 weeks between doses idea rather than increase (as some were speculating a few weeks ago), that 2nd dose of AZ has became even more important. Or would that then weaken the effect of the second dose given their recommendation was 12 weeks? Just thinking out loud.
 
blue for life said:
I went out at lunchtime into Stockport. Produce Hall Market Place. Just wanted a coffee that’s all. App this app that! Couldn’t be arsed so walked out and had a pint in the Petersgate Tap. It was less palaver to get a pint!
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I know the feeling. We found the same when we went out in town last week. And the sort of thing that tends to stick.
 
ayrshire_blue said:


Might go some way to explaining what's going on with this current rise in cases. Basically one dose of AZ is doing very little and two doses of this particular vaccine are absolutely necessary. Drop off for one dose of Pfizer nowhere near as bad and still offers good protection.

We will have so many people at present on one dose of AZ.

Actually given that news it might make more sense to reduce the 12 weeks between doses idea rather than increase (as some were speculating a few weeks ago), that 2nd dose of AZ has became even more important. Or would that then weaken the effect of the second dose given their recommendation was 12 weeks? Just thinking out loud.
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Second dose of AZ has already been brought forward to 8 weeks, obviously for this reason.
 
ayrshire_blue said:


Might go some way to explaining what's going on with this current rise in cases. Basically one dose of AZ is doing very little and two doses of this particular vaccine are absolutely necessary. Drop off for one dose of Pfizer nowhere near as bad and still offers good protection.

We will have so many people at present on one dose of AZ.

Actually given that news it might make more sense to reduce the 12 weeks between doses idea rather than increase (as some were speculating a few weeks ago), that 2nd dose of AZ has became even more important. Or would that then weaken the effect of the second dose given their recommendation was 12 weeks? Just thinking out loud.
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At least the next group to be offered, the under 30s, will be having Pfizer.
 
ayrshire_blue said:


Might go some way to explaining what's going on with this current rise in cases. Basically one dose of AZ is doing very little and two doses of this particular vaccine are absolutely necessary. Drop off for one dose of Pfizer nowhere near as bad and still offers good protection.
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My second AZ jab was due next week (12 weeks), but I firstly got the opportunity to bring it forward a week .and then when I took Mrs Unicorn for her second jab in Sheffield last Sunday night the nice lady offered me a jab there and then. seemed very keen to get folk on AZ done ahead of schedule.
 
ayrshire_blue said:


Might go some way to explaining what's going on with this current rise in cases. Basically one dose of AZ is doing very little and two doses of this particular vaccine are absolutely necessary. Drop off for one dose of Pfizer nowhere near as bad and still offers good protection.

We will have so many people at present on one dose of AZ.

Actually given that news it might make more sense to reduce the 12 weeks between doses idea rather than increase (as some were speculating a few weeks ago), that 2nd dose of AZ has became even more important. Or would that then weaken the effect of the second dose given their recommendation was 12 weeks? Just thinking out loud.
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Happy my parents got 2 dose of Pfizer..my second az can't come soon enough
 
Greater Manchester

Weekly total cases:-




Tameside 89, Trafford 140, Oldham 149, Stockport 159 , Bury 178, Rochdale 179, Salford 234, Wigan 244, Manchester 561, Bolton 1182.

Huge jumps up for most places whilst Bolton is at least not accelerating

IT was 30 times the rest
 
Have Pfizer or az said anything about tweaking the vaccine against the Indian variant. Got to be looking into it..
 
unicorn said:
My second AZ jab was due next week (12 weeks), but I firstly got the opportunity to bring it forward a week .and then when I took Mrs Unicorn for her second jab in Sheffield last Sunday night the nice lady offered me a jab there and then. seemed very keen to get folk on AZ done ahead of schedule.
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They have been doing AZ early for quite a while. I think before this data was known.

Mine was due at 12 weeks on 4 May and I got called in at very short notice (as in 15 minutes!) on 26 April - less than 11 weeks. But I know people around the same time who got it around 9/10 weeks.

Get the feeling that they have supected for a while Pfizer works better against this variant.

Maybe we will see the third dose for all who had AZ being Pfizer and the over 80s having that one in July and ever onwards. Trying to get to all the over 60s by September.

They are doing a trial on mixing vaccines due to be released soon are they not? In expectation that could boost immunity.
 
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