Coronavirus (2021) thread

[ganganvince]

She did not resist, she died today, I am very sad.

Sorry for your loss

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Back over 4000 cases today.

Week on week significant (20%+) rises in cases and hospitalisations, doubling time about three weeks.

The effect of last week's relaxation probably won't yet be fully reflected in these figures, so a further acceleration is distinctly possible.

21st June further relaxation looking increasingly unlikely; it's hard to see a rapid turnaround coming without some decisive national action.

But every day brings more vaccinations, and every one brings a downswing closer. And good weather should help too.

Europe should be watching this and shitting themselves.



I'm out of here until after the final. Feeling distinctly nervous.

 

[Scottyboi]

My point is still correct.

Your point has nothing to do with this government still letting in Indians when we know their variant is worse than all our others. Why lockdown businesses and cripple our economy if they are just going to be so negligent with travel.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

From the BBC. More than 42,000 passengers flew between India and UK in April

Were they all going to funerals or to visit a sick relative? The sort things many of us couldn't do in the UK

We had to make loved ones stand outside when we buried my aunty last year, but fuckers can fly to the other side of the world for “essential reasons”. It was/is a fucking joke.

 

[Healdplace]

Today it was the Moors Murderers versus the Virus.

What a horribly depressing day.

Bolton back up to 241 - up 55 week to week

 

[ayrshire_blue]

That's a natural R0 of between 4 and 4.5 (without intervention). Herd immunity threshold for all cohorts of society now up to 78%

I had read a bit more. I'm not clued up enough to know how it's calculated, of course I'd like Devan to be incorrect.

 

[Healdplace]

Sadly the NW is going up way more than all the other regions, Hard not to be concerned now.

Here are the last weeks numbers: - 540 - 720 - 494 - 495 - 566 - 745 - 1025 - 1251

This is what happened in London and Kent pre Christmas. A sudden leao up.

And we may not be close to the end of the spiral. Lodon ended up going from that to over 10,000 in days.

Though vaccinations could yet be the huge difference now and get us out of this mess relatively unscathed.

Nowhere else is going up like this is the good news if you do not live in the NW.

Yorkshire (10 days ago who were leading) up just 38 to 343 - NW nearly 4 times that now.

Even London - now second - is just 495 - miles below the NW.

North East is still on just 97 and South West on 92.

 

[Healdplace]

Greater Manchester is unhappily as bad as you woukd expect from the numbers. More giant leaps for almost everywhere.

751 of the 1251 NW cases in the ten boroughs. More than double the 367 of last week.

Only one borough escaped fairly well today. Oldham. DOWN from 31 to 18. Though that is up on 8 last week.

Everyone else on a big upward spiral.

Bury from 20 last week to 33 yesterday and 45 today

Manchester from 41 to 104 to 154 today

Rochdale from 24 to 43 to 43 today (at least a stall if not a fall!)

Salford from 19 to 60 to 77 today

Stockport from 9 to 40 to 53 today

Tameside from 5 to 20 to 30 today

Trafford from 24 to 26 to 37 today

Wigan from 31 to 44 to 53 today.

The rather rapid rises in Manchester and Stockport are particularly worrying.

That Stockport rise looks about the worst of them all and reminscent of how Bolton started out.

They went 14 to 29 to 75 to 135 across the first 3 weeks of this variant taking hold.

Stockport remember has the best vaccination numbers in GM.


Hopefully this will turn out not to be the concern it seems right now.


But I think heads should roll for letting this variant in as it has seemingly wrecked all our hard work for months. And was at least avoidable to some degree if not entirely had we learmed the lessons of the mistakes that keep getting made too many times.

At some point the responsibility has to fall on someone.

 

[BLUEMATT23]

Next up is the Thai varriant of concern.

It will never end
They don't want it to.
I know lots of people resigned to normality will never ever come back.
It's very depressing now.

 

[blue for life]

I went out at lunchtime into Stockport. Produce Hall Market Place. Just wanted a coffee that’s all. App this app that! Couldn’t be arsed so walked out and had a pint in the Petersgate Tap. It was less palaver to get a pint!

 

[unicorn]

I think this is positive; beds occupied by Covid patients in England still edging downwards even as admissions edge up.

That could mean younger people with less serious Covid issues being discharged sooner, I guess. And as @Healdplace reminds us, these figures are a fraction of what they were in January.

Then again, I always was too inclined to see the positives, being a City fan and all !

 

[Healdplace]

Sad to say the hospital data is a bit worrying in the NW too.

Though in England patients are up just 1 to 743 and NW stays at 173 patients there were more admissions in the NW than any other region AND most serious of all a major increase in NW patients on venrilators today.

That has gone 19 / 20 / 20 / 21 / 18 / 20 / 23 / 23/ 21 over past ten days. Today it shot up by 9 to 30. Biggrest rise n any region in a day in some time.

Had it even stayed the same vemntilatpr numbers in the UK would have fallen well week to week.

In the rest of the UK things are going well in hospitals.

NW not yet a disaster but on a bit of a kife edge as to where we go and that sudden jump in ventilators is not at all good.

Yes we are in a much better place here - as Unicoern says - than in January. But if this ventilator jump is continued then we will need to know why. May just be a bad day and self correct. Let us hope so.

 

[crooky]

I went out at lunchtime into Stockport. Produce Hall Market Place. Just wanted a coffee that’s all. App this app that! Couldn’t be arsed so walked out and had a pint in the Petersgate Tap. It was less palaver to get a pint!

Was it for the NHS track and trace or like an ordering app for their specific store?

You can just write down your details if you don't have the NHS app.

 

[blue for life]

I went out at lunchtime into Stockport. Produce Hall Market Place. Just wanted a coffee that’s all. App this app that! Couldn’t be arsed so walked out and had a pint in the Petersgate Tap. It was less palaver to get a pint!

Not being flippant by the way. Just nowhere near normal I think for a long time.

 

[blue for life]

Was it for the NHS track and trace or like an ordering app for their specific store?

You can just write down your details if you don't have the NHS app.

For them. Did not offer to take my name and number unlike the pub.

 

[blue for life]

Remember 21st June is irreversible!! Not! Can’t see it happening. They are already preparing us for disappointment.

 

[crooky]

Next up is the Thai varriant of concern.

Seems like we're going from countries who recently held a World Cup (or should of!) to curries...

- South Africa
- Brazil
- England (Should've had a World Cup in 2018)

So could be the Qatar or German variant next.

to

- Indian curry
- Thai curry

What other country does a mean curry?

 

[crooky]

For them. Did not offer to take my name and number unlike the pub.

Yeah that sucks. Should've maybe said you don't own a phone and see what they said. Bit much though.

 

[Healdplace]

I think this is positive; beds occupied by Covid patients in England still edging downwards even as admissions edge up.

That could mean younger people with less serious Covid issues being discharged sooner, I guess. And as @Healdplace reminds us, these figures are a fraction of what they were in January.

Then again, I always was too inclined to see the positives, being a City fan and all !


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It is if you look at the England picture. Not if you look at the NW one.

NW is far and away why there is even a posibility of no opening up next month.

The only area where this variant seems to hve taken a big hold and may be creat ing issues.

Hopefully these will be the unvaccinted. Hopefully the unvaccinated will see sense and stop saying no.

But if not and the opening up gets suspemded - even just locally in the NW or GM - then do not complain about lack of freedoms. In a pandemic you have a right to say no. But have to take the consequeces of that no as well.

 

[Gabriel]

EMA approved the Pfizer vaccine for use with 12-15 year olds today; follows the US in that regard.