Champions League Final | Post-Match Thread

We will come back stronger next year!

Got the experience... I am confident. Hope Pep has learnt his lesson about tweaking in the biggest game of them all
 
SidJames said:
He looks a right tit today,for doubling down.Getting flak from everywhere for dropping Fern to the Bench.

Should have held up his Hands, and said this was the biggest fuck up of his managerial career.Which it was.

Not a bit of it.

His genius was not to be questioned.

We played not so good first half,better in the second.

His tactics had fuck all to do with the defeat.

Plucky City,the Club with no history until his Ego arrived,gave a good account of their selves against a Big Club,with lots of history.

I wonder how key players feel today.

Got a feeling we have not heard the last of this debacle.
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I would get rid if the club really wants to dominate

Unpopular I know but Pep knows he safe here. He tinkers at times with the team

Last nights selection was embarrassing.

I bet everyone when the team was announced thought what the fuck!
 
I don't believe for one second that Pep picked a team that he didn't think would win. He felt the same for the Lyon game too I'm sure. But like me and everyone of us, we are prone to a brain fart or two in our lives. I don't have an alarm that goes off to warn me when I'm about to have one. Usually for me it's the Mrs or the Boss at work who tells to me hold on a minute before I crash and burn and make a twat out of myself. So my question is where is Pep staff when he has them? That's their job surely or is that structure a dictatorship?
 
Kazzydeyna said:
We may all have to accept that we wont win this bent competition with Pep at the helm. Personally I am okay with that as I only care about the domestic stuff anyway but I accept I’m probably in the minority with that view.
It’s just that year after year after year after year he tries to be clever when what is required in the CL is pragmatism. He does it in big league games too but we invariably have 30+ games to make up for it in the league.

I’ll be quite happy to wait for success in europe until after Pep has left which I hope is in a few more years yet.

My only frustration this morning is that I believe Pep doesn’t see City as ‘big enough’ or ‘historically important enough’ to really be at the very top table and consequently feels the need to try and over egg the pudding in compensation.

Let’s have another few years of domestic success and worry about Europe when we change manager eventually.
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I aggree.

Also all our best runs under his management, have come with injuries to key players,meanning the team picks it self.Good runs with injuries to KDB,LaPorte,Vinny.

It is like the injuries control the urge to tinker.

When we went on that record breaking winning run,it was with a back 2 central defender pairing of Stones/Dias every game.

Not only were we not losing,we were not even conceeding.

A normal manager would have changed fuck all.And Said i will see where this team takes us,that should have been the logic.

Not Pep,soon as La Porte recovered from injury,the tinkering started.

Just like that we started conceeding again,then losing.

It is like he can not help himself with a full squad.

Last night we needed an assistant manager that called him out before kick off,instead of "Yes Men"
 
razman said:
We will come back stronger next year!

Got the experience... I am confident. Hope Pep has learnt his lesson about tweaking in the biggest game of them all
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He hasn’t learnt because he did it in Lyon and did it again yesterday. He’s had five years to learn how to play against a 5 back team and we still can’t do it. Also what experience? The experience of not turning up and losing?
 
Sterling is near enough done at City. It's not an over reaction to last night. If Foden is gonna keep getting played on the left wing then there's no way he's getting that spot back. Mahrez has been bang on form this season and arguably offers more than Sterling also.
 
It's no coincidence when we have a BIG game Pep overthinks it...the evidence is for all to see.....

Yet again, a stonewall penalty turned down.....

I am running out of words.....
 
In fairness to bluemoon while all team selections get some stick the one's that have had the biggest reactions have all resulted in our worse games and in fairness yesterday in the pre-match alarm bells were ringing, said to my lad we are playing with a back 4 and a front 6 when team was announced.
 
ws01 said:
He also saves us a hell of a lot of goals too doing a very similar thing.

Definitely not his fault IMO.
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Definitely is. He is good. Not gonna dispute it. But how many times does he rush off his line and gets fucking done. Look at Spurs earlier this season. Same shit all the time
 
razman said:
We will come back stronger next year!

Got the experience... I am confident. Hope Pep has learnt his lesson about tweaking in the biggest game of them all
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Well in typical UEFA wisdom they’re playing next years final in st Petersburg

Don’t fancy being mugged off for a £600 flight and £120 visa only for pep to ruin it again with an absurd team that gives us no chance

nah fuck that.. hope we get knocked out in the group phase
 
You have to say that Tuchel completely out-managed Pep from start to finish. The art of management is not only get your team to play how you want them to but to get the opposing team to play how you want them to and Tuchel did this to perfection. Chelsea never once looked out of shape and they never needed to change formation throughout the game. We started with no DM or striker but ended with with one DM & two strikers, by which time we were shambolic.

I suppose this answers the question of what we do when Pep eventually leaves. We get another good manager who knows how to set up a very good squad of players for important games.
 
The1nvisibleMan said:
Definitely is. He is good. Not gonna dispute it. But how many times does he rush off his line and gets fucking done. Look at Spurs earlier this season. Same shit all the time
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The pros outweigh the cons.

Ederson snuffs out a huge amount of opposition chances throughout a season coming off his line. He has to, with the amount of space we leave in behind, and he's all-round brilliant at it.

From time to time he's going to get beaten. I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bath water here.
 
Mancini Manus Domini said:
I think we need a holding midfielder as well. If Rodri and Fernandinho aren't good enough to start a Champions League final ahead of a player for whom it's not his natural position, then we need to improve it.
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Fernandinho should of definitely started. Pep was obviously going for the attacking, controlling the game/possession approach with the Gundo, KDB, and Bernardo midfield but that never worked. He gambled and it backfired massively.
 
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