northstandgiveusasong
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Champions League Final | Post-Match Thread
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Fordyboy46
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It is beyond belief that at eight seasons at City and Bayern he has failed to deliver European success. Like others have said, we won't win this with Pep in charge
Lovebitesandeveryfing
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Can’t understand people that blame Chelsea for being bus-parkers. At 0-0 it always felt like they were the team that was gonna find the 1-0 goal. Werner missed a brilliant opportunity and there were a couple of other chances that felt dangerous. We only had Foden’s when Rudiger blocked.
That is the harsh truth. We didn't carve out a clear opportunity at any point. They had several. Ed was brilliant on what should have been their second. Made himself very big. Reminded me of Joe at his best.
Lovebitesandeveryfing
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If anyone has had any shit off dippers or rags about “European royalty” guff, please give it back to them with both barrels. We are champions, by twelve points. They won nothing this year.
Just about to head off to work. This will be fun.
:-(
I know that quoting yourself can make you blind, so they say, but… a word to the wise.
Have we fuck been sussed. Brighton played against 10 men for most of that game and had Attwell and Moss as extra men.Good post, We've now been sussed. Brighton and Chelsea have shown in recent weeks how to play against us. We have to find a different way next season and signing a striker will give us options.
Just won the league by 12 points and we've been sussed. FFS.
The personnel isn’t even the biggest factor, just the insistence on the high press and playing such a high line against teams that have enough quality on the ball to play past the press and then enough pace up front to get behind us and have 1v1s.
Leicester with Vardy have killed us with it.
Scum have beaten us in 3/4 of the last league matches (the other was a draw).
Chelsea/Tuchel have beaten us three times in a row.
Lyon did it last year (when we had 3 CDMs but still played a high line).
Liverpool did it 3 times in 2018.
Against Spurs twice in 2020 (plus conceding 4 in two UCL legs).
Even Arsenal have done it (FA cup).
But Pep just doesn’t seem to learn. The same mistakes against those teams, over and over and where they have that quality on the ball and pace in attack; they take the risk of letting us play in their half and then take their chances when they inevitably come. Restricting us to chances with 8/9/10 players behind the ball and then getting 1v1 chances in return.
Then there’s his experimentalism. Against Liverpool in 2018 he played Laporte at left back for the first time and we lost.
Against Lyon we played Gundo, Dinho and Rodri in midfield (but still a v high line) and we lost.
This year we had neither Rodri nor Dinho for the first time all season.
He’s talked so many times about the difference between winning and losing being what happens in both boxes, but he insisted on not playing the person who’s expertise is getting it right in the box.
I’ll say it again. That despite all the amazing things he has done for us, it is all about him. All about his ego. He will always take the risk of the club suffering if he could end up being seen as a genius.
He’ll stick to his style even if it keeps defeating us and has been worked out, if there’s a possibility that it will end up looking like his ideas were what won us the game.
Leicester with Vardy have killed us with it.
Scum have beaten us in 3/4 of the last league matches (the other was a draw).
Chelsea/Tuchel have beaten us three times in a row.
Lyon did it last year (when we had 3 CDMs but still played a high line).
Liverpool did it 3 times in 2018.
Against Spurs twice in 2020 (plus conceding 4 in two UCL legs).
Even Arsenal have done it (FA cup).
But Pep just doesn’t seem to learn. The same mistakes against those teams, over and over and where they have that quality on the ball and pace in attack; they take the risk of letting us play in their half and then take their chances when they inevitably come. Restricting us to chances with 8/9/10 players behind the ball and then getting 1v1 chances in return.
Then there’s his experimentalism. Against Liverpool in 2018 he played Laporte at left back for the first time and we lost.
Against Lyon we played Gundo, Dinho and Rodri in midfield (but still a v high line) and we lost.
This year we had neither Rodri nor Dinho for the first time all season.
He’s talked so many times about the difference between winning and losing being what happens in both boxes, but he insisted on not playing the person who’s expertise is getting it right in the box.
I’ll say it again. That despite all the amazing things he has done for us, it is all about him. All about his ego. He will always take the risk of the club suffering if he could end up being seen as a genius.
He’ll stick to his style even if it keeps defeating us and has been worked out, if there’s a possibility that it will end up looking like his ideas were what won us the game.
Bill Walker
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Absolute Legend.
Thank you.
If you're reading this Sergio I'm sorry you were disrespected at the end.
Thank you.
If you're reading this Sergio I'm sorry you were disrespected at the end.
We invited friends round for a meal in the garden yesterday. They know nothing of football except what I tell them, and that was simple enough. "We've known our best team and best formation for a month and the only issue was between two players for one crucial position and at the last minute the manager chose neither of them."
What’s more frustrating is that we actually stopped doing it against Dortmund and PSG. The reason we actually got to the final this year was that we played a deeper defensive line, didn’t give so much space behind and didn’t insist on pressing so much.The personnel isn’t even the biggest factor, just the insistence on the high press and playing such a high line against teams that have enough quality on the ball to play past the press and then enough pace up front to get behind us and have 1v1s.
Leicester with Vardy have killed us with it.
Scum have beaten us in 3/4 of the last league matches (the other was a draw).
Chelsea/Tuchel have beaten us three times in a row.
Lyon did it last year (when we had 3 CDMs but still played a high line).
Liverpool did it 3 times in 2018.
Against Spurs twice in 2020 (plus conceding 4 in two UCL legs).
Even Arsenal have done it (FA cup).
But Pep just doesn’t seem to learn. The same mistakes against those teams, over and over and where they have that quality on the ball and pace in attack; they take the risk of letting us play in their half and then take their chances when they inevitably come. Restricting us to chances with 8/9/10 players behind the ball and then getting 1v1 chances in return.
Then there’s his experimentalism. Against Liverpool in 2018 he played Laporte at left back for the first time and we lost.
Against Lyon we played Gundo, Dinho and Rodri in midfield (but still a v high line) and we lost.
This year we had neither Rodri nor Dinho for the first time all season.
He’s talked so many times about the difference between winning and losing being what happens in both boxes, but he insisted on not playing the person who’s expertise is getting it right in the box.
I’ll say it again. That despite all the amazing things he has done for us, it is all about him. All about his ego. He will always take the risk of the club suffering if he could end up being seen as a genius.
He’ll stick to his style even if it keeps defeating us and has been worked out, if there’s a possibility that it will end up looking like his ideas were what won us the game.
It’s a massive reason why we turned our season round also. And I reckon that’s the influence of his Assistant.
But in the key moments, he just couldn’t resist it.
It’s not. He didn’t get it right but the idea that he tinkered with the team suggests it was more an indulgence or he didn’t know what he was doing but thought he had to do something. He picked the team which, with hindsight, didn’t work out, then the players played badly.Why is it so difficult to accept that he screwed up?